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ZMA - anyone taking this suppliment, I hear it improves sleep which is what I need, I'm also looking for a Testosterone booster, any ideas?
 
ZMA - anyone taking this suppliment, I hear it improves sleep which is what I need, I'm also looking for a Testosterone booster, any ideas?

I think it was xrapidx that was taking it if I recall? why do you want to boost testosterone, as you think your levels are low or to increase performance, i.e like steroids but not that radical?
 
I think it was xrapidx that was taking it if I recall? why do you want to boost testosterone, as you think your levels are low or to increase performance, i.e like steroids but not that radical?

I think mine is bit low, have a little fat around my chest region that I cannot get rid of, stomach has come right but I have read I testosterone booster can assist here.
 
I think mine is bit low, have a little fat around my chest region that I cannot get rid of, stomach has come right but I have read I testosterone booster can assist here.

ok I see, frankly I think my is genetically on the low side as well, I actually want to get it tested at some point, have read that it can be tested either by blood test or by saliva test (which apparently is more accurate) and was wondering if there were strips or home saliva kits like strips to do it with. not just for that reason but also I despise needles and will do anything to avoid something like a bloodtest.
 
Good question, is there even legal test boosters you can buy over the counter in SA or do you need a contact as in the case of roids?

In the past I just ordered mine online, and as long as the post office don't know what is inside, they just let it through.
 
Do they even make a noticeable difference?

Depending on your age, I doubt someone healthy in their 20's early 30's need their natural testosterone enhanced... Test levels can only be SO high naturally, so if it’s at its peak (which it should be for most young healthy males) there's no use in trying to increase it, would be a waste IMO
 
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Well read through the reviews before ordering this, 2 things stuck: aggression, sleep...
Started of on 5tabs a day. 3 before workout and 2 before bed, haven't seen the aggression, but damn it makes my sleep pattern funny! Its like I can't get enough sleep!!! And tired in morning!
In gym its awesome though! Wasn't tired once through workout, could easily increase weight on all my workouts! Def ordering again!

Most reviews say you get deep sleep, some guys become more agro.
 
I take about 3g of ZMA and 5g of GABA before bed... purely for sleep, not interested in the other sales points.

Sleep like a baby, I struggle to wake up in the mornings, when I don't take it I'm up at 3-4AM.
 
I take about 3g of ZMA and 5g of GABA before bed... purely for sleep, not interested in the other sales points.

Sleep like a baby, I struggle to wake up in the mornings, when I don't take it I'm up at 3-4AM.

Can you list what products you take and where I can buy them from, very interested in the sleep part.
 
Can you list what products you take and where I can buy them from, very interested in the sleep part.

Hmmm... nothins special. I either buy from SupplementWorld or Dischem these days
Whey
Cassein
MRP
GABA
ZMA
Creatine
Glutamine
Dextrose
Pro10 flavouring

Then: ON Fish Oil, Joint supplement, Vit C, CLA and recently SlowMag.
 
Hmmm... nothins special. I either buy from SupplementWorld or Dischem these days
Whey
Cassein
MRP
GABA
ZMA
Creatine
Glutamine
Dextrose
Pro10 flavouring

Then: ON Fish Oil, Joint supplement, Vit C, CLA and recently SlowMag.

Very interested in Gaba and ZMA, does Dischem sell them and what brand should I be looking at getting?
 
I'm not to fussed about brand in this case, I think at the moment I have supplementSA stock.
 
I take about 3g of ZMA and 5g of GABA before bed... purely for sleep, not interested in the other sales points.

Sleep like a baby, I struggle to wake up in the mornings, when I don't take it I'm up at 3-4AM.

do you feel long term it affects your sleeping though, i.e if you stop taking it today will you be able to sleep without it?
 
do you feel long term it affects your sleeping though, i.e if you stop taking it today will you be able to sleep without it?

Yeh... I usually forget on weekends and sleep ok. I'm a very light sleeper though, so enjoy a deep sleep. I usually only go to bed at around 11 and get up before 5... so disruptions during the night are a pain.
 
I feel sorry for you guys, I know how it feel. Personally I am between a light and deep sleeper, anything can wake me up, but if I am used to the noise it doesn't. What however does wake me up in the middle of the night, is if I need to go take a leak, seriously irritating. Had to learn to not drink too much water before I go to bed, and make sure bladder is empty before I even think of getting into bed, then I am all good for a peaceful night sleep.
 
Say you bulk up, decide that your muscles are big enough and start cutting. Once you reach say 8-10% BF, you've come to realize that some muscles are over developed and some other muscles are underdeveloped.

Is there a method of training where you can decrease size in one group of muscles, and increase the other?
 
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