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When the official minister of finance (or whatever the portfolio is called in the UK) comes out and provides numbers of the net effect it would have on the economy when it is in fact incalculable, that is a lie of epic proportions.

and that's just one example of many on the bremoan side
Sounds like Rees-Mogg who said not long ago that it's impossible to know what will happen to the economy in the future, then just a few days ago claims very matter-of-factly that Brexit will mean a 1.1t pound increase. Derp.
 

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Sounds like Rees-Mogg who said not long ago that it's impossible to know what will happen to the economy in the future, then just a few days ago claims very matter-of-factly that Brexit will mean a 1.1t pound increase. Derp.
Very convenient to have fair weather faux brexiteers like Rees-Mogg and BoJo to quote. Why not stick to actual brexit supporters rather?

Naturally any idiot should know it is impossible to know the future, both on the downside and the upside. Both sides of the brexit campaign lied in that sense, yet only one gets called on it ...
 

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Very convenient to have fair weather faux brexiteers like Rees-Mogg and BoJo to quote. Why not stick to actual brexit supporters rather?

Naturally any idiot should know it is impossible to know the future, both on the downside and the upside. Both sides of the brexit campaign lied in that sense, yet only one gets called on it ...
Proper Brexit supprters


Am waiting for them to paint the bus with the 1.1 trillion that was just made up
 

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And which of those are untrue?
These are literally impossible to calculate and therefor represent lies, just like the much reviled 350mil statement:
- exit would lead to x amount black hole in public finances
- the UK would be worse off
- British families would be worse off
- in any plausible scenario the UK economy is likely to be smaller in 2030
- would be worse off in all scenarios


5 outright lies on a single poster, that takes some doing, but hey, 350mil!!!! :X3:
 

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These are literally impossible to calculate and therefor represent lies, just like the much reviled 350mil statement:
- exit would lead to x amount black hole in public finances
- the UK would be worse off
- British families would be worse off
- in any plausible scenario the UK economy is likely to be smaller in 2030
- would be worse off in all scenarios


5 outright lies on a single poster, that takes some doing, but hey, 350mil!!!! :X3:
That's the leave campaign Vs:

Treasury
IMF
PWC
LSE

....etc etc.

And are all still valid. The statement that isn't is the £350 mill. Apart from it bring a lie In calculation. Also it's proposed target was total BS
 

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Yes when the official government and status quo pushes their narrative they enlist many "independents" ... and?


Nope, not a single one is, they're as valid as the 350mil lie, period.
Actual independent economists Vs a bunch of politicians. From your own apparent "evidence" of lies. Huge difference.

The 350 million was never valid. It was just BS maths . As confirmed before the vote results came out. There has been nothing that has actually proved any of the other claims wrong yet.

As I said huge difference...but I don't expect you to actually comprehend that.
 

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Actual independent economists Vs a bunch of politicians. From your own apparent "evidence" of lies. Huge difference.
No difference whatsoever, you do realize the "independent economists" in that list include the UK treasury right? Independent, LOL.

Regardless, BS maths remains BS maths, no matter who did it.

Have you ever considered psychiatric help?
Great, once again we regress to name calling rather than actual debating, but then again I'd expect no less from the one who still clings to the notion that Corbyn is pro-brexit despite having multiple direct quotes over time thrown in your face. If anyone needs help it is you.
 

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No difference whatsoever, you do realize the "independent economists" in that list include the UK treasury right? Independent, LOL.

Regardless, BS maths remains BS maths, no matter who did it.


Great, once again we regress to name calling rather than actual debating, but then again I'd expect no less from the one who still clings to the notion that Corbyn is pro-brexit despite having multiple direct quotes over time thrown in your face. If anyone needs help it is you.
Yes, the same Corbyn who over many years has shown his attitude to the EU who had to pretend to be remain to consolidate his position as leader during the referendum and so made some lukewarm pro eu statements.

It’s just a pity you aren’t capable of rational dissection of his dishonesty...
 

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No difference whatsoever, you do realize the "independent economists" in that list include the UK treasury right? Independent, LOL.

Regardless,
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Is that the best you've got? That one of the Economist In the list is the treasury? And how many are not the treasury? It's hilarious that you provided us that picture, as it a actually works against your cause

Regardless, it is highly unlikely that you would be actually be able to ascertain whether it's BS maths or not. And your "BS maths remains BS maths, no matter who did it" is telling, did you feel in your bones that it's BS maths, or did you actually calculate the correct maths?
 

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Yes, the same Corbyn who over many years has shown his attitude to the EU who had to pretend to be remain to consolidate his position as leader during the referendum and so made some lukewarm pro eu statements.

It’s just a pity you aren’t capable of rational dissection of his dishonesty...
It's these "anti establish" types who somehow actually support one of the most established and longing serving world leaders
 

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They can make life a bit more difficult (but they already do on the border with their “ID checks”) but the sovereignty of Gibraltar has got nothing to do with Brexit.
It's not about the sovereignty but rather taxes, workers, airport (it's in spanish territory) and contraband.
 

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It's not about the sovereignty but rather taxes, workers, airport (it's in spanish territory) and contraband.
The EU is supporting Spanish claims.

In Madrid today, cordial meeting with @sanchezcastejon to prepare for #Brexit #Salzburgsummit18. A deal with #UK is possible if integrity of Single Market is preserved. Full support for Spain in its negotiations w/ UK on #Gibraltar, which need to conclude asap.
 

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It's not about the sovereignty but rather taxes, workers, airport (it's in spanish territory) and contraband.
Gibraltar airport is not on Spanish territory, it’s actually officially UK MOD property.

You can see where the border is from this map.28B69C17-1C66-42ED-8A1F-845DEC2CFB51.jpeg
 
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