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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...preme-court-parliament-prorogue-a9118576.html

Boris Johnson appears to contradict his own claim that parliament suspension was 'nothing to do with Brexit

Boris Johnson has come under fire from a former member of his cabinet for contradicting his previous claims that the suspension of parliamentary sittings was “nothing to do with Brexit”.

Responding to the Supreme Court’s ruling that the five-week “prorogation” was unlawful, Mr Johnson said that some people were trying to “frustrate” Brexit and that the job of negotiating an EU withdrawal deal was made harder by the outcome of the case.

Former work and pensions secretary Amber Rudd, who walked out of Mr Johnson’s cabinet in protest at his expulsion of Brexit rebels from the Conservative party, said the prime minister was trying to “have it both ways”.
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Boris, lie? Surely not... :rolleyes:
 
Cray said:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...preme-court-parliament-prorogue-a9118576.html



Boris, lie? Surely not... :rolleyes:
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The ruling said that Boris acted unreasonably with the prorogation.
She added: “I believe that there was a political content to the prorogation, in its length and duration. It was perhaps unwise of the government not to say ‘We are entitled to have a political content to it’.

“It was reasonable to use a certain amount of political nuance on prorogation. It was a mistake to ignore it altogether
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The political realities of the situation are a reasonable cause for it IMO. You have a referendum result that has to be upheld, and you have a parliament that isn't interested in doing so. The same parliament is uninterested in calling for an election to get parliament to align with what the people want. Thus with no other option on the table, what else is there to do?

That is perfectly reasonable, and if the government didn't put that in their arguments, then they deserved to loose.
 
Quite right:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1177113638827692032

Boris Johnson plans to suspend Parliament AGAIN just days after Supreme Court ruled the first attempt was unlawful

Plans to suspend Parliament again were being drawn up by Boris Johnson last night – just one day after his first attempt was cancelled by a Supreme Court judgment.

The Prime Minister told MPs he intends to press ahead with a Queen's speech in the coming weeks in order to bring forward a new agenda of domestic policies.

Mr Johnson, who brushed aside calls to apologise for his failed prorogation, said: 'I think we need a Queen's speech. We have a dynamic domestic agenda.'

Downing Street confirmed that a new Queen's speech to set out his policies, which would include plans for services such as the NHS and education, would require Parliament to be prorogued.

But it suggested any prorogation for a Queen's speech would have to be much shorter – probably just four or five days rather than the five weeks Mr Johnson demanded last time.

Mr Johnson yesterday offered opposition leaders a fresh chance to force an election by holding a vote of no confidence in his government today.

But opposition parties looked set to reject the offer, describing it as a trap that could allow the PM to take Britain out of the European Union without a deal during the election campaign.
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buka001 said:
Lol.

The ruling elite have nothing to lose with Brexit.

Normal, average everyday people, such as truck drivers, fisherman and farmers, are the ones who will suffer far more than any MP.
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The ruling elite will benefit immensely with Brexit if you ask me....

The average man will suffer badly.
 
Chris_the_Brit said:
Seems the sensitive snowflake Remoaner MPs got triggered by the use of the term 'Surrender document' last night. :ROFL:

So pathetic.
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and once again the Australian doesn't quite understand what the problem was, having never been in the UK for more than a couple weeks holiday I suppose that's really no surprise.
 
Ancalagon said:
Ugh... Boris and Co are definitely part of that ruling elite. What makes you think Boris is wanting to help the working class Britons by delivering Brexit?
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Cos Boris is a genuine toff, and toffs are all around good guys
 
buka001 said:
Lol.

The ruling elite have nothing to lose with Brexit.

Normal, average everyday (future immigrants), such as (refugee DOL seeking people) are the ones who will suffer far more than any MP.
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FTFY.
 
konfab said:
The ruling said that Boris acted unreasonably with the prorogation.

The political realities of the situation are a reasonable cause for it IMO. You have a referendum result that has to be upheld, and you have a parliament that isn't interested in doing so. The same parliament is uninterested in calling for an election to get parliament to align with what the people want. Thus with no other option on the table, what else is there to do?

That is perfectly reasonable, and if the government didn't put that in their arguments, then they deserved to loose.
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I mean, if you artificially frame the options as that limited, then you can spin it any way you want.

And given that Brexiteers are the ones that have voted multiple times not to uphold the referendum result in Parliament... whose fault is it?

The political reality of the situation is that Parliament passed legislation, which has received royal assent, which BoJo has to honour. He can't just dissolve Parliament because he doesn't like the legislation they passed.
 
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