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f2wohf said:
He was quick to change allegiance!

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His name is Boris afterall.

rietrot said:
Most grownups are anti-socialist. Or at least those that took 5 min to investigate how the world works should be. Socialist are naive children.
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I thought that applied to libertarians and free market types. Conservatives don't seem to have much grasp on the real world either.
 
Dairy products 'may become luxuries' after UK leaves EU

Everyday dairy products such as butter, yoghurt and cheese could become luxury items in Britain after Brexit, with price rises being caused by the slightest delay in the journey from farm to table, a report by the London School of Economics finds.

The LSE research, commissioned by the company behind Lurpak, Anchor and Arla brands, also found that speciality cheeses could become scarce after Brexit, with escalating costs whatever the outcome of the exit negotiations.

Ash Amirahmadi, the UK managing director of Arla Foods, said: “Our dependence on imported dairy products means that disruption to the supply chain will have a big impact. Most likely we would see shortages of products and a sharp rise in prices, turning everyday staples like butter, yoghurts, cheese and infant formula, into occasional luxuries. Speciality cheeses, where there are currently limited options for production, may become very scarce.”

The LSE report comes a year to the day after the government was warned that it was “sleepwalking” into a post-Brexit future of insecure, unsafe and increasingly expensive food supplies.

Britain’s food production deficit has been put in the spotlight after repeated warnings that the country needs to rely less on imports to feed the population.

Britain does not produce enough milk to keep up with demand, creating a dependency on the EU, including on dairy-surplus countries such as Ireland, Germany, France, Belgium and Denmark for everyday items such as cheddar cheese and butter.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-luxuries-after-uk-leaves-eu?CMP=share_btn_tw
 
f2wohf said:
Britain does not produce enough milk to keep up with demand, creating a dependency on the EU, including on dairy-surplus countries such as Ireland, Germany, France, Belgium and Denmark for everyday items such as cheddar cheese and butter.
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Sure, because only the EU has dairy-surpluses :rolleyes:
 
f2wohf said:
Not the only ones but the largest surpluses by far, definitely...

And whether the milk comes from the EU or somewhere else, it will be faced with the same issues than with the EU since the UK won't have FTA on day 1.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/268191/cow-milk-production-worldwide-top-producers/
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They don't need a FTA to import disease ridden dairy products from third world ****holes. If you see what the GBP is doing that's all they'll be able to afford. :crylaugh:

On another note...when the mass redundancies inevitably happen, I truly hope the Brexiteers will put their hands up for the chop since "independence" is clearly more important to them than food on the table or a roof over their heads.
 
JayM said:
They don't need a FTA to import disease ridden dairy products from third world ****holes. If you see what the GBP is doing that's all they'll be able to afford. :crylaugh:
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True, I forgot that it will be used to make british food in any case. Fresh or rotten milk won’t make the food better.
 
Dave said:
I'm no supporter of Brexit by any metric, but I would think there's a element of scare tactics in that story. The UK dairy industry is probably big enough to increase production, the only real casualty would be specialty French/Greek/Italian cheeses, I think.
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You’d most likely need extra farms and new factories to produce more yoghurt, butter, cheese, infant formula, it requires a bit of planning and I don’t see the UK being capable of planning right now!
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
Sure, because only the EU has dairy-surpluses :rolleyes:
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Brexit is exactly what the UK needs to get rid of it's reliance on the EU anyway. There might be a difficult transition but they can, with time, setup new dairy farms in the UK and become self-reliant!
 
f2wohf said:
You’d most likely need extra farms and new factories to produce more yoghurt, butter, cheese, infant formula, it requires a bit of planning and I don’t see the UK being capable of planning right now!
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The farms are still there, in the main, many farmers just cut back on herd numbers, looking at 2014 numbers there isn't a great deal of raw milk or cream imports (they actually have a trade surplus iirc), the trade deficit is in processed items like cheese.

See here:
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British people would rather stay in the EU than accept a no-deal Brexit

A new poll has found that the British public would much prefer to remain in the EU than to accept the kind of no-deal Brexit being pushed by Conservative Brexiteers.

The YouGov poll for the Times found that in a three-way transferable vote – where the public would vote on three outcomes in order of preference – 50% would put their first preference towards remaining, 17% towards leaving with a deal, and 33% towards leaving with no-deal.

That would eliminate the least popular option – leave with a deal – in the first round of counting. After the second preferences of “leave with deal” voters were allocated, the final result handed “remain” a 55% share and “leave with no deal” 45%.

The idea of a three-way referendum, proposed this week by former Cabinet minister Justine Greening, is itself unpopular with voters, with only 36% in favour of the proposal and 47% opposed to the idea.
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https://www.ft.com/content/9f494eea-8b77-11e8-b18d-0181731a0340

A 10-mile-long motorway in south-east England can be shut and turned into a lorry park to cope with tailbacks from the port of Dover if Britain crashes out of the EU with no deal, under one plan being considered by the government.

The M26 in Kent would become a “holding area” for up to 1,400 goods vehicles to try to ease the gridlock as up to 10,000 lorries a day suddenly require customs checks to enter the EU.

The idea is just one part of a vast effort by the government to brace Britain for the possibility of chaos if relations sour with the EU and co-operation ends after next March.
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Hahahahahahahaha.
 
Democracy that's what voting for bexit is about.
JayM said:
They don't need a FTA to import disease ridden dairy products from third world ****holes. If you see what the GBP is doing that's all they'll be able to afford. :crylaugh:

On another note...when the mass redundancies inevitably happen, I truly hope the Brexiteers will put their hands up for the chop since "independence" is clearly more important to them than food on the table or a roof over their heads.
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OrbitalDawn said:
https://www.ft.com/content/9f494eea-8b77-11e8-b18d-0181731a0340



Hahahahahahahaha.
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I was involved in the planning of the M26 lorry park. Company I work for was awarded the Early Contractor Involvement tender by Highways England.

The idea was to provide a massive lorry park for this type of situation. However the project collapsed after the landowner refused to sell. Ended up in court and Highways England lost the case.

Highways England are currently working on an alternative, however it will not be ready by March.
 
OrbitalDawn said:
https://www.ft.com/content/9f494eea-8b77-11e8-b18d-0181731a0340



Hahahahahahahaha.
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That sounds quite a bit like the current contingency plan called Operation Stack, it's been used previously when the French dockers have gone on strike. I think the FT are confusing the existing plan with a future plan to build a lorry park (as mentioned by [MENTION=83306]buka001[/MENTION]) on land which appears to have stalled due to no one willing to sell them the land they need,
 
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