The Brexit Thread

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Eish, my bad. I think (atleast I understood it) he meant the companies will also 'exit the EU' once Brexit comes to be unless they move out of the non EU UK. Though since they are multinational companies I'm sure they already have some roots in other current EU countries.
 
Eish, my bad. I think (atleast I understood it) he meant the companies will also 'exit the EU' once Brexit comes to be unless they move out of the non EU UK. Though since they are multinational companies I'm sure they already have some roots in other current EU countries.

I doubt there are any large multinationals without EU staff/offices/factories. That’s why I’m wanting him to clarify exactly which multinationals he is saying will exit the EU after Brexit. To “literally” exit the EU will mean they close all EU offices and factories and leave the EU.

As he’s so sure, it shouldn’t be hard for him to say which ones (or even just one) he is referring to.
 
Not obtuse, just rational (unlike some).

Can you name these multinationals that WILL leave the EU? ie a multinational company that WILL move staff, offices or infrastructure out of the EU, in the same way multinationals have/will do from the UK...
/facepalm

confirmed, intentionally obtuse

no actual movement is required, by virtue of the fact that one is based in the UK, and not moving to the EU, one will automatically "leave" the EU when the UK leaves the EU, capische?

where your HQ once was in the EU, it will no longer be in the EU, without physically moving a damn thing, so while all the bremoan propaganda loves to harp on about all these companies that have said they'll leave the UK, none have the balls to point out those that are not leaving the UK are leaving the EU by default

and again, no staff, offices or infrastructure will need to move in order to "leave the EU", if it is in the UK it automatically leaves the EU, repetitive I know, but seems you need it ...
 
I don't think he means literally?
Literally in the same way the UK is literally leaving the EU.

The EU is a political body after all, when one leaves it there's no physical movement as you are leaving a political body, the move is still literal however.

Literal != physical
 
Literally in the same way the UK is literally leaving the EU.

The EU is a political body after all, when one leaves it there's no physical movement as you are leaving a political body, the move is still literal however.

Literal != physical
Yip, the correct word I was looking for was physically.
Though I doubt most of the multinational companies only have offices in the UK and not any other EU countries?
 
Yip, the correct word I was looking for was physically.
Though I doubt most of the multinational companies only have offices in the UK and not any other EU countries?
Doesn't matter too much, I'm only talking about the HQ / head office, many of the reported companies "leaving the UK" are just moving their HQ and keeping offices in the UK anyway.

If those can be deemed to be "leaving the UK", like they are in the press, then UK based companies can keep their EU offices, but if they keep their HQ in the UK they are by the same token "leaving the EU".
 
No, it doesn't.

If the UK drops out with a no deal Brexit, they just have to look after themselves, as an economically powerful country, they can take a hit and still be OK.

You cannot honestly say that for the EU.
https://paultang.nl/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Net-Contributions-to-the-EU-Revisited.pdf
The EU ony has a few net contributors, the UK being one of them. Loosing the UK will mean that between Germany, Sweden, France, Denmark, Austria, Finland and Italy, they will have to cough up more to cover the gap.
Macron is delusional if he thinks that paying the EU more when his country is going to support an increase in contributions.
Sweden has said: no.
Italy has just entered into a recession

The net contribution is a bit less than 9 billion.

Even if France picks up 4 billion of it (which is over the top), it's a bit more than 1% of the french government budget (329 billion).

You can just cut from the research credit (first one on the list) which costs 21 billion a year for very little result. It won't affect the households since it's a corporate rebate.

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Or spend less, or the EU could spend less as well.

Thanks for your concern but we'll survive.
 
See deflect deflect deflect
no, explain explain explain

it was crystal clear from the start, but the willfully ignorant insist on clutching at straws, me explaining a position I've held from the start is by no means deflection, the likes of you and Dave labeling it such, now THAT is deflection ...
 
no, explain explain explain

it was crystal clear from the start, but the willfully ignorant insist on clutching at straws, me explaining a position I've held from the start is by no means deflection, the likes of you and Dave labeling it such, now THAT is deflection ...

You made an unambiguous and easily understandable statement.

Literally every single large multinational that is in the UK and not threatening to leave the UK, will be leaving the EU

Now you realise how stupid you sound you want to deflect and pretend you didn’t say it.

It’s a really dumb statement, unless you can tell us of at least one of these “large multinationals” that “will be leaving the EU”?

Just one link to show where a large multinational has announced plans to leave the EU...
 
You made an unambiguous and easily understandable statement
... and yet you refuse to understand it

The EU is a political body, not a physical entity, now for your next trick, tell me that "to literally leave" a political body can only ever be interpreted to mean physically leaving a virtual entity. :ROFL:

I will of course not be providing the proof you demand for an assertion I never made, I maintain: any multinational HQ'd in the UK, without plans to leave the UK, is leaving the EU by default.
 
An EU company I worked for remotely closed down its office in the UK because of Brexit. I’m feeling the effects personally.
 
The EU is a political body, not a physical entity


What? Now you’ve really smacked yourself with the stupid stick. There is no physical territory called the E.U.?

For your next trick are you going to describe all countries as being a “political body, not a physical entity”? :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:


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I will of course not be providing the proof you demand for an assertion I never made, I maintain: any multinational HQ'd in the UK, without plans to leave the UK, is leaving the EU by default.

You can’t provide proof for your bullshít statement, everyone else here understands why...

“An assertion I never made”, are you denying you said this?

Literally every single large multinational that is in the UK and not threatening to leave the UK, will be leaving the EU
 
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Nice one Sunderland. Voted 61% majority to leave the EU.

Today Nissan in Sunderland decided not to make the new X-trail there. Basically reversing the 2016 decision, which was based on government assurances about Brexit.

With the new FTA Japan has with the EU, why should they bother about Sunderland?
 
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