The Brexit Thread

[Dave]

Yeah, they've said they will debate it (they have to for any petition with over 100k signatures, if I'm not mistaken). But it doesn't mean they have to do anything apart from that.

No, the petitions committee decides if a petition should be debated or not.

https://www.parliament.uk/business/...-a-z/commons-select/petitions-committee/role/

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

The EU have already given them an unconditional extension until 12 April.

seems I've not been paying close attention, but my god how hard is it to write correct info, take two of the top google results:
https://bfb.by/en/trending-news/unconditional-extension-of-brexit-until-april-12

After numerous hours of negotiations the EU-27 countries approved unanimously a Brexit extension at least until April 12 on the condition that PM Theresa May will be able to get her agreement through the UK Parliament next week

vs
https://openeurope.org.uk/daily-shakeup/eu-grants-unconditional-article-50-extension-until-april-12/

EU 27 leaders yesterday agreed to extend Article 50 until 22 May, provided the Withdrawal Agreement is approved by the House of Commons next week. If it is not, the EU agrees to extend Article 50 until April 12, by which point the UK government is expected to indicate a way forward

So one says 12 April depends on getting the deal votes through this week, the other says 22 May depends on that condition and should it fail then it will be 12 April.

F-ing lazy journalists!

 

[The Voice]

No, the petitions committee decides if a petition should be debated or not.

https://www.parliament.uk/business/...-a-z/commons-select/petitions-committee/role/

Oh that's interesting.

 

[Dave]

The current list of options put forward in parliament.

 

[Vox Populi Vox Dei]

Bercow has blocked MV3. LOL.

JRM doesn't have to vote for it. Hehehehehe.

 

[Vox Populi Vox Dei]

Amendments selected. No doubt @OrbitalDawn will be delighted with Option M, but I'd say it is unlikely to pass as no doubt some of Corbyn's frontbench will resign to vote against, and there are quite a few Labour MPs who will vote against despite it being whipped.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1110925083730681856

 

[Dave]

Amendments selected. No doubt @OrbitalDawn will be delighted with Option M, but I'd say it is unlikely to pass as no doubt some of Corbyn's frontbench will resign to vote against, and there are quite a few Labour MPs who will vote against despite it being whipped.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1110925083730681856

For those using the default forum theme.

The tweet:

 

[Vox Populi Vox Dei]

Breaking: May tells MPs: “I will not remain in post for the next phase of the negotiations”.

https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn

Brexiteers, get ready to fight dirty with soft left of the party and unify behind a SINGLE candidate or else the choice will be two Remoaners!!!

It's time for some entertainment !!!

 

[Dave]

Theresa May says she will resign as prime minister if it means her Brexit deal passes

Theresa May has told Conservative MPs she will step aside as prime minister after she has delivered Brexit.

She pledged to quit before the next stage of negotiations, allowing her successor to carry the Brexit process forward.

More follows…

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...der-contest-prime-minister-tory-a8842706.html

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...der-contest-prime-minister-tory-a8842706.html

what a legacy she'd leave, specifically elected to deliver brexit, completely fahked up brexit years later with absolutely nothing to show for her time at the helm

 

[Dave]

what a legacy she'd leave, specifically elected to deliver brexit, completely fahked up brexit years later with absolutely nothing to show for her time at the helm

She’ll be spoken about in the same manner as people do of Neville Chamberlain.

 

[Dave]

Sounds like not all the Tory Brexiteers are happy with it.

 

[Vox Populi Vox Dei]

what a legacy she'd leave, specifically elected to deliver brexit, completely fahked up brexit years later with absolutely nothing to show for her time at the helm

She's trying to blackmail Brexiteers obviously. But even though I'm excited by the possibility of BoJo as PM, if I have to be honest, changing the top doesn't change the awful deal. Brexiteers might have to *gulp* consider revoking A50 in order to get a new deal.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

She’ll be spoken about in the same manner as people do of Neville Chamberlain.

... but is there a Churchill to pull it out of the fire this time around?

 

[Dave]

... but is there a Churchill to pull it out of the fire this time around?

In my opinion, no, not in any party...

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

even though I'm excited by the possibility of BoJo as PM

for pure entertainment value?

Brexiteers might have to *gulp* consider revoking A50 in order to get a new deal.

If the 'leave' sentiment is still strong among the people (and who the hell knows at this point with all the anti-no deal fear-mongering) then any brexiteer MP (and I maintain there are none) had better steer clear of any revoking motion, it will cause civil unrest that you don't want your name associated with.

Let someone else revoke it while you are seen to vehemently oppose it even if you think it must be done for a better deal.

Pity they'll never see the best deal they can get, you'd have to go through with no-deal first to bring the EU to the table willing to really negotiate, yet nobody seems to have the stomach for it. Bunch of pansies.

 

[Vox Populi Vox Dei]

for pure entertainment value?

Indeed. He will at least be very funny and charismatic. Prime Minister's Questions will be a hoot.

 

[C4Cat]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1110976907594604544

BREAKING: Boris Johnson says he’ll now back Theresa May’s deal, which he’s repeatedly trashed as a terrible deal he could never support. This is because if it passes, she quits & he may become Prime Minister.
Such courage!
Such principle!
Such a shameless little ****.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

I'm not even sure I understand the gambit. If the deal is so rotten and is the problem, what does it help to get rid of May, if it means you get the deal?

 

[OrbitalDawn]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1110976907594604544

BREAKING: Boris Johnson says he’ll now back Theresa May’s deal, which he’s repeatedly trashed as a terrible deal he could never support. This is because if it passes, she quits & he may become Prime Minister.
Such courage!
Such principle!
Such a shameless little ****.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1110983329099198464

May: Vote for my deal.
Boris: No.
May: I’ll try and change it.
Boris: No.
May: Please?
Boris: No.
May: I’ll make you lunch at my posh house?
Boris: No.
May: I’ll quit, leaving a vacancy open for PM?
Boris: ....
Boris: Fine.

...

Essentially Boris is saying initially he voted for one thing and now he will vote a different way now he fully knows the implications.