The Brexit Thread

[dw...]

ahem *cough* ...
https://www.dw.com/en/eu-parliament...anctions-procedure-against-hungary/a-45459720

No, Narrowband, nothing about the “erecting physical borders” or even a wall in your link.

"wall" = their stance on immigration, refusal to accept German imposed quotas, building physical borders etc etc etc

don't be daft

Now now, it’s not good to try and spin what your said into some sort of fake news story, your exact words were that Hungary was reprimanded for “erecting physical borders”, and as you’ve so ably shown, that hasn’t happened.

 

[Zoomzoom]

No, Narrowband, nothing about the “erecting physical borders” or even a wall in your link.



Now now, it’s not good to try and spin what your said into some sort of fake news story, your exact words were that Hungary was reprimanded for “erecting physical borders”, and as you’ve so ably shown, that hasn’t happened.

Hungary did in fact build a barrier fence 'wall' if you like, along its borders with Serbia and Croatia in 2015 at the height of the immigration crisis.

https://en.s4c.news/2018/11/02/__trashed-3/

And they were criticized for doing so.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/19/...ld-fence-to-deter-migrants-is-criticized.html

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

No, Narrowband, nothing about the “erecting physical borders” or even a wall in your link

yeah nothing at all ...

the EU was targeting Hungary for refusing to take in refugees under an EU-wide resettlement quota scheme

pure coincidence that this was the only issue they clashed with the EU on before the EU voted to censure hey? exactly how blind are you?

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

You're being daft as usual. You continually post articles that actually weaken your point

your comprehension failure is not my problem, the link absolutely supports what I said, provided you understand English

 

[Hamish McPanji]

your comprehension failure is not my problem, the link absolutely supports what I said, provided you understand English

I quoted from that link

 

[Hamish McPanji]

Well, it seems the Tory leadership competition is getting real.

Rory Steward admitted he smoked opium at a wedding in Iran. "very stupid mistake" , he said

Not to be outdone, Gove decided to tell us his regret at taking cocaine

And then Leadsom decided to really up the game by admitting to have smoked cannabis in the 80's


Wonder whose next?

 

[dw...]

Hungary did in fact build a barrier fence 'wall' if you like, along its borders with Serbia and Croatia in 2015 at the height of the immigration crisis.

https://en.s4c.news/2018/11/02/__trashed-3/

And they were criticized for doing so.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/19/...ld-fence-to-deter-migrants-is-criticized.html

Yes, I think everyone is aware of that, the point under discussion was the Hungary was not officially reprimanded or sanctioned by the E.U. for building the wall along its border.

 

[dw...]

yeah nothing at all ...


pure coincidence that this was the only issue they clashed with the EU on before the EU voted to censure hey? exactly how blind are you?

As I understand it Mr Angry, the link you quoted talks about them not taking their quota share of refugees who are already in the EU, it isn't referencing them obstructing or preventing migrants at their southern borders.

As an aside, are you always so angry and confrontational when you have a discussion?

 

[Gingerbeardman]

As I understand it Mr Angry, the link you quoted talks about them not taking their quota share of refugees who are already in the EU, it isn't referencing them obstructing or preventing migrants at their southern borders.

As an aside, are you always so angry and confrontational when you have a discussion?

Distinction without a difference, bud. You're nitpicking over nothing.

 

[dw...]

Distinction without a difference, bud. You're nitpicking over nothing.

Not at all Gingerbread, we were discussing a specific issue which was morphed into a totally different issue when Narrowband was shown he was actually wrong in his statement.

as demonstrated by Hungary who got reprimanded for erecting physical borders to stop the influx of migrants

That didn’t happen, Narrowband then tried to change it into a discussion about the quotas of refugees already in the EU, something which has nothing to do with the southern border walls/fences.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Not at all Gingerbread, we were discussing a specific issue which was morphed into a totally different issue when Narrowband was shown he was actually wrong in his statement.

NBFTW was arguing that the EU was enforcing punishing policies upon a sovereign nation for not complying with EU protocols, and you chose to get sensitive about the phrasing.

That didn’t happen, Narrowband then tried to change it into a discussion about the quotas of refugees already in the EU, something which has nothing to do with the southern border walls/fences.

The physical borders were the means by which the refugee quotas within Hungary remained unfilled; refusing to accomodate refugees means more than just signing a piece of paper.

 

[dw...]

NBFTW was arguing that the EU was enforcing punishing policies upon a sovereign nation for not complying with EU protocols, and you chose to get sensitive about the phrasing.


The physical borders were the means by which the refugee quotas within Hungary remained unfilled; refusing to accomodate refugees means more than just signing a piece of paper.

No sensitivity at all, Gingerbread, and I’m quite sure what we were discussing.

You can change that now on his behalf but that wasn’t the discussion I was having which was exclusively to do with the physical border fence he brought up. You can go back and read the relevant posts if you feel the need to gain more insight.

It isn’t really considered polite to try and argue a point and then change the whole issue under discussion, you know?

 

[Gingerbeardman]

No sensitivity at all, Gingerbread, and I’m quite sure what we were discussing.

You can change that now on his behalf but that wasn’t the discussion I was having which was exclusively to do with the physical border fence he brought up. You can go back and read the relevant posts if you feel the need to gain more insight.

It isn’t really considered polite to try and argue a point and then change the whole issue under discussion, you know?

So to clarify:

so disingenuous, thanks for clarifying

what the rules say on paper in a hypothetical sense is worlds apart from the reality, as demonstrated by Cameron, as demonstrated by May, as demonstrated by Poland who got reprimanded for the way they deal with their domestic press, as demonstrated by Hungary who got reprimanded for erecting physical borders to stopping the influx of migrants

Which part of the original statement would you like to contest, now that the nitpick issue has been removed? You haven't addressed the substance of his claim.

 

[Urist]

Brittain should exit, they've never been dependent on another nation, no reason they should be now. Modern rome, determine your own future. keep your stiff upper lip. Europe will follow, as they always have.

 

[Urist]

Brittain is not exiting europe, europe is exiting brittain. Don't forget who won the war. May will have the honour of being remembered as the weakest britton leader in history. Handing over self determination and sovereignity of the most powerful nation not even 100 years ago.
All power to Farage the barrage.
Even if they end up losing economically, it's a small price to pay, giving an inch is not the brittish way.
Just watched dankula's stag party.... A bunch of lads having fun in a country that is theirs, in the most Scottish way possible, it is something worth preserving, that transcends economics.

 

[Urist]

Brexit means f@!# you to Merkel's soviet union.

 

[Zoomzoom]

If someone has posted this already I apologise.

Makes you think.

 

[noxibox]

Well, it seems the Tory leadership competition is getting real.

Rory Steward admitted he smoked opium at a wedding in Iran. "very stupid mistake" , he said

Not to be outdone, Gove decided to tell us his regret at taking cocaine

And then Leadsom decided to really up the game by admitting to have smoked cannabis in the 80's

They always sound like such losers when then they apologise for these things. Says a lot about their followers too.

NBFTW was arguing that the EU was enforcing punishing policies upon a sovereign nation for not complying with EU protocols

Which they have not done in regard to Hungary and their walls.

The physical borders were the means by which the refugee quotas within Hungary remained unfilled; refusing to accomodate refugees means more than just signing a piece of paper.

And according to all articles posted they were not punished for this. Whatever penalties they're facing it is over being an authoritarian police state. Frankly I have no idea why Hungary joined the EU if they prefer the way things were done in the bad old days. And if that is what Brexit supporters in the UK are hoping to emulate we should get out of the UK now while we're still allowed to leave.

Brittain should exit, they've never been dependent on another nation, no reason they should be now.

The UK is dependent on others. As is the US. Not that easy to go it alone in the world. The UK has not done so for hundreds of years.

Just watched dankula's stag party.... A bunch of lads having fun in a country that is theirs

It's not really theirs. They're part of a union. Maybe we should break up the UK. Then break up the countries into tribal villages. Then villages into individual houses. Then I'll have true sovereignty. No Outsiders telling me what to do or how to run my little kingdom, small as it is.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Which they have not done in regard to Hungary and their walls.

Why are you nitpicking over irrelevant trivialities?

And according to all articles posted they were not punished for this. Whatever penalties they're facing it is over being an authoritarian police state.

Yes, everyone who isn't a globalist is an alt-right fascist Nazi according to the globalists. Likewise anyone who isn't in favour of open borders. "Let's run roughshod over your national sovereignty while we denounce you as racists if you don't comply" is a relatively stale game by now, I'm surprised you haven't noticed it being played yet.

Frankly I have no idea why Hungary joined the EU if they prefer the way things were done in the bad old days. And if that is what Brexit supporters in the UK are hoping to emulate we should get out of the UK now while we're still allowed to leave.

Bye then. I'll take the bad old days over the new doublethink days.

 

[dw...]

So to clarify:



Which part of the original statement would you like to contest, now that the nitpick issue has been removed? You haven't addressed the substance of his claim.

Very disingenuous to try and edit an old post to change its meaning, as I stated, my discussion with him was only about his fake news story relating to the border fence/wall.

You are almost trolling by changing to change what the discussion was about. Just in case you are still unclear, the entire substance of the discussion was the EU sanctions/reprimands that Hungary didn’t get for their border fence. NOTHING ELSE.

I hope that clears up your state of confusion.