The Constantia FTTH Thread

luka138

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This will determine if Link Africa can deploy this method throughout the whole of Cape Town. They are planning to do a whole bunch more suburbs this year if it goes through.
Wow that's awesome! Pity I live in Grassy Park
Maybe I'll get very lucky
 

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Wow that's awesome! Pity I live in Grassy Park
Maybe I'll get very lucky

He he. It's effort more than luck. The best suburbs are obviously high income (to boost revenue) and high density (to reduce costs), but operators are looking for high uptake (40% is ideal). If you can organise people to push for it collectively, then you have much higher chances. Dream big
 

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He he. It's effort more than luck. The best suburbs are obviously high income (to boost revenue) and high density (to reduce costs), but operators are looking for high uptake (40% is ideal). If you can organise people to push for it collectively, then you have much higher chances. Dream big
Totally understandable that they need their profit :)
That being said, I'm looking to spread it via the neighbourhood watch and other organisations around here. I really want a provider that isn't Telkom to do fibre here
 

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Totally understandable that they need their profit :)
That being said, I'm looking to spread it via the neighbourhood watch and other organisations around here. I really want a provider that isn't Telkom to do fibre here

I don't think operators can be accused of greed right now. The costs of fibre are prohibitive. Getting organisations mobilised is an excellent idea. One option is to fibre up clusters of houses or businesses and then backhaul each cluster with a wireless link. As demand builds, the clusters join each other, then we persuade Cape Town to pull their wholesale fibre into the area.
 

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Telkom are busy laying fibre next to my Link Africa node. They are going to beat Link Africa to the punch at this point.

Only in Africa, two companies laying fibre in the same street at the same time when 99% of the country has zero FTTH, just sad! You can't blame Telkom here, they are taking their opportunity which has been created by the CoCT delaying the process for linkafrica...pretty damn scary for linkafrica when they clearly would not have had telkom here if they could have deployed immediately, telkom would have bailed.
 

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Only in Africa, two companies laying fibre in the same street at the same time when 99% of the country has zero FTTH, just sad! You can't blame Telkom here, they are taking their opportunity which has been created by the CoCT delaying the process for linkafrica...pretty damn scary for linkafrica when they clearly would not have had telkom here if they could have deployed immediately, telkom would have bailed.

It's a terrible waste

If there is a flipside, it's that Telkom has a strategy to bring fibre to the curb to improve their ADSL/VDSL offering, which is still the most common means of access. Their customers get instant improvements in performance without having to do anything different

Also, most residents I spoke to aren't going for Telkom, they are waiting

Finally - there's nothing to stop Link Africa trenching as they have those approvals. That's a choice they need to make and they have actually proceeded in some cases
 

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I don't think operators can be accused of greed right now. The costs of fibre are prohibitive. Getting organisations mobilised is an excellent idea. One option is to fibre up clusters of houses or businesses and then backhaul each cluster with a wireless link. As demand builds, the clusters join each other, then we persuade Cape Town to pull their wholesale fibre into the area.
Certainly not. That's why I have no problem with them requesting a demand. They need to get returns for what they spend.
 

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Finally - there's nothing to stop Link Africa trenching as they have those approvals. That's a choice they need to make and they have actually proceeded in some cases

Ye but that is like budgeting for an aerial fibre deployment, sending your costing out to potential clients and then having to do traditional trenching methods...the numbers will not work anymore.
 

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Ye but that is like budgeting for an aerial fibre deployment, sending your costing out to potential clients and then having to do traditional trenching methods...the numbers will not work anymore.

That's true. If you proceed, there's an extra cost. If you hold back, there's a major cost too. I'm not facing the risk so hard to say what should be done. The lesson is if you go and promise residents a rapid deployment solution, make sure you have council approvals in writing beforehand
 

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That's true. If you proceed, there's an extra cost. If you hold back, there's a major cost too. I'm not facing the risk so hard to say what should be done. The lesson is if you go and promise residents a rapid deployment solution, make sure you have council approvals in writing beforehand

This is true...I guess because of their previous installations being approved, and this cape town brandband inititive, there should not have been a problem as a precedent was set last year, oh well you live and you learn
 

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Hmmm, what happened to the Doordrift zone? It does not reflect on LA's Facebook page?

The good news is that I did see the LA guys measuring my road two weeks ago, so at least they have not forgotten us.
 

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Any idea when we will actually be able to order? What is the actual physical process like of connecting a house? Where would they need to dig?

I don't know how much longer, you'll need to phone in and ask.

Your house will connect with fibre to the street/area's distribution point. Your cable will go under your lawn, driveway, or a conduit up your wall/into your house/ceiling, and then down/into the termination point (looks like a router/networking device). And then into your router which handles dialing the connection.
 
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