The Gauteng E-tolling Thread

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would be cool and quite intrusive, but even if they did, I won't pay - you see I don't have internet access, so they will have to mail me the photos ;-)
 
supersunbird said:
I tried the highways today, nice and empty, I mostly "changed lanes" between the reflectors at the gantries... wonder if I will be billed for that? Will have to wait and see.
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F me, that didn't work at all. R39 down the drain lol. And I cant believe they are adding VAT on this tax.
 
supersunbird said:
F me, that didn't work at all. R39 down the drain lol. And I cant believe they are adding VAT on this tax.
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We're already R102 in debt to these crooked @#$!%^^^%$ers.

And +1 on the VAT point! WTH is up with that
 
I assume you can print a vat invoice from that unregistered toll payment site?
If not, they're breaking the law.
 
flarkit said:
We're already R102 in debt to these crooked @#$!%^^^%$ers.

And +1 on the VAT point! WTH is up with that
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They don't care about VAT. If you haven't noticed you are paying VAT on electricity and water which is far worse IMO. Water is a basic human right.
 
So it seems everyone moaned and bitched about the tolls. Vowed never to buy a tag... yet I see sheep buying / using them. Tipical South African way... sigh.

SANRAL were smart with this.. they knew South Africans have no backbone and thus, their scam will work and these tolls will never collapse. So much for the good fight hey?
 
Tander said:
So it seems everyone moaned and bitched about the tolls. Vowed never to buy a tag... yet I see sheep buying / using them. Tipical South African way... sigh.

SANRAL were smart with this.. they knew South Africans have no backbone and thus, their scam will work and these tolls will never collapse. So much for the good fight hey?
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Nothing to do with backbone. They have the ANC, the law, the cops all behind them. They werent smart at all, its called a corrupt government ruled by a dictator
 
Tander said:
So it seems everyone moaned and bitched about the tolls. Vowed never to buy a tag... yet I see sheep buying / using them. Tipical South African way... sigh.

SANRAL were smart with this.. they knew South Africans have no backbone and thus, their scam will work and these tolls will never collapse. So much for the good fight hey?
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We'll see at next year's elections just how happy everyone is to pay an extra R450pm for no additional benefit.

The early e-tag adopters had nice highways for a few days so they were gloating about how they would pay R450pm with a smile for open freeways. But soon those freeways won't be open, they'll be just as busy as always and they'll still be paying R450pm and then +30% annually.

http://businesstech.co.za/news/general/50487/sa-consumers-drowning-in-debt/

Nomsa Motshegare, CEO of the National Credit Regulator, has warned against the reckless spending over the festive season after statistics published by the credit bureau for the quarter ended September 2013 indicate that consumers are drowning in debt.

Credit bureaus held records for 20.29 million credit-active consumers, an increase of 0.4% when compared to the 20.21 million in the previous quarter.

Consumers classified in good standing increased by 9,000, to 10.53 million consumers.

As a percentage of the total number of credit-active consumers at 51.9%, this reflects a decrease of 0.1% quarter-on-quarter and 1.1% year-on-year.

The number of consumers with impaired records increased by 71,000 to 9.76 million, from 9.69 million in the previous quarter.

The number of accounts decreased from 71.20 million in the previous quarter to 71.17 million.

The number of impaired accounts increased from 18.87 million to 19.25 million when compared to the previous quarter, an increase of 375,000 quarter-on-quarter and 1.99 million year-on-year.

A total of 357.65 million enquiries were made on consumer credit records, a decrease of 0.7% quarter-on-quarter and an increase of 11.5% year-on-year.

Enquiries initiated by consumers accounted for 16.16 million of all enquiries, an increase of 1.6% quarter-on-quarter and 1.5% year-on-year.

Of the total enquiries made on consumer records, enquiries from banks and other financial institutions accounted for 85.1%, enquiries from retailers accounted for 3.2% and enquiries from telecommunication providers accounted for 4.6%.

Banks and other financial institutions’ enquiries decreased by 0.2% from the previous quarter, retailers decreased by 43.3% and telecommunication providers increased by 12.1%.
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Oh you ain't seen nothing yet... tun tun... ooohhh baby you just ain't seen nothing yet!!!
 
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COSATU ups the game - Snail mail 'to block e-tolls

COSATU ups the game

Yesterday, the Cosatu-affiliated Communications Workers' Union urged its workers, who have been on a go-slow, to strengthen their contribution to Cosatu's campaign against e-tolls by delaying the delivery to defaulting motorists of SA National Roads Agency mail.

"We [want] our workers to be really extremely slow when they see the e-tolls mail," Aubrey Tshabalala, the union's Gauteng secretary, said.

"Our members will be very slow. The snail will be faster than us when we see e-tolls mail."

He said the go-slow would become a stayaway on December 24 and January 2.

If the go-slow persists at the Post Office, the delay in the delivery of the seven-day demands to motorists without e-tags would jeopardise Sanral's case against defaulters.

Tshabalala said main Post Office centres such as those at Witspos, Germiston, OR Tambo International airport and Krugersdorp would be in complete lockdown.

Traffic officers in Ekurhuleni and Johannesburg, who complain that they are being overwhelmed by the diversion of traffic onto secondary routes by e-tolling, have resorted to dragging their feet.

The officers are members of the SA Municipal Workers' Union, an affiliate of Cosatu.

Samwu's Gauteng legal officer, Jack Mokalapa, confirmed officers were on an unofficial go-slow.

"We cannot be held responsible for the go-slow. It's not the official position of the union but we have assured our members that we will fight the e-tolls through Cosatu," he said.

Mokalapa said the union had received complaints from officers about the "madness" on alternative roads.

"It is an added burden, which is unnecessary. As a Cosatu affiliate, we will continue to exert pressure on the government to scrap the e-tolls. They are affecting operations and officers cannot respond to other emergency cases," he said.

Both the Ekurhuleni and the Johannesburg metro police departments claimed they were not aware of the go-slow.

"As far as I know, all our officers are on their feet doing their work," said Johannesburg metro police spokesman Edna Mamonyane.

Her counterpart in Ekurhuleni, Wilfred Kgasago, said: "There's no evidence that there is a go-slow."

When asked whether the go-slow would affect the delivery of its notices, Sanral spokesman Vusi Mona said: "Not at this moment."

He also said that he had no knowledge of go-slow protests by Post Office workers and metro police.
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Unacceptable, our postal services should be working 100% (which is slow at best...) and the contents and intentions of the mail being delivered should not be a factor.
 
Both the Ekurhuleni and the Johannesburg metro police departments claimed they were not aware of the go-slow.
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Any slower and they would be comatose.
 
2012 said:
Unacceptable, our postal services should be working 100% (which is slow at best...) and the contents and intentions of the mail being delivered should not be a factor.
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Not sure if trolling, sarcasm or delusion.....:confused:
 
Sinbad said:
I assume you can print a vat invoice from that unregistered toll payment site?
If not, they're breaking the law.
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I doubt it. It seems they've just made exceptions in the SANRAL Act for pretty much everything, and I'm sure they'll just update the law as they go.
 
garp said:
I doubt it. It seems they've just made exceptions in the SANRAL Act for pretty much everything, and I'm sure they'll just update the law as they go.
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As a small vat-registered business you're entitled to reclaim the VAT you pay on these transactions. You're not allowed to do that without supporting documentation - a VAT invoice.
 
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