The Gauteng E-tolling Thread

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supersunbird said:
The question is what angles do the gantry cameras work at, and how one can obscure just that angle...
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Look at the photo of a car passing through and you will see the angle. Personally I think something as simple as changing the font of the plate slightly will do the trick and I highly doubt metro will pick it up.
 
Tander said:
Look at the photo of a car passing through and you will see the angle. Personally I think something as simple as changing the font of the plate slightly will do the trick and I highly doubt metro will pick it up.
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I cant look and then see the degrees in my minds eye, can you?
 
Tander said:
SANRAL's cameras and most speed cameras have infra red filters on - so that would be completely useless. ;)
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Drive under a gantry pointing a TV remote control at the camera (pressing a button of course) - then get the image of your car... if you see a white dot in the picture then IR flooding will blind the cameras.

(point an IR remote to a cell phone camera and you will see the dot too)
 
Ricard said:
Drive under a gantry pointing a TV remote control at the camera (pressing a button of course) - then get the image of your car... if you see a white dot in the picture then IR flooding will blind the cameras.

(point an IR remote to a cell phone camera and you will see the dot too)
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That trick only works on old cell phones. New ones it doesn't. Buy good idea with the gantries would be cool to try.
 
Here's another (I think) legal way to try and mess with the number plate recognition system.

Take a white piece of cardboard.
Write a couple of random number plate numbers on it in the correct font and size (as well as a border ?).
Hold it against the windscreen when passing under the gantry.
Use the website to see if the gantry picked up the number plates.

Anyone up there in Gauteng willing to give it a try ?
 
Does SANRAL charge for vehicles being transported on trailers or towed on flatbeds?

For example if a car breaks down on the etrolling[-]free[/-]way, and the AA has to tow the broken down vehicle on a flatbed towing truck, does the owner of the broken down vehicle get charged for passing under gantries when propelled by another vehicle?

And if someone decides to transport a motorbike on the back of a backie/trailer, is the motorbike's owner charged separately for the motorbike passing under gantries?
 
j4ck455 said:
Does SANRAL charge for vehicles being transported on trailers or towed on flatbeds?

For example if a car breaks down on the etrolling[-]free[/-]way, and the AA has to tow the broken down vehicle on a flatbed towing truck, does the owner of the broken down vehicle get charged for passing under gantries when propelled by another vehicle?

And if someone decides to transport a motorbike on the back of a backie/trailer, is the motorbike's owner charged separately for the motorbike passing under gantries?
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Nope it doesn't work like that. Those cars are not using the road are they? They are being transported by another truck which is charged.
 
j4ck455 said:
Does SANRAL charge for vehicles being transported on trailers or towed on flatbeds?

For example if a car breaks down on the etrolling[-]free[/-]way, and the AA has to tow the broken down vehicle on a flatbed towing truck, does the owner of the broken down vehicle get charged for passing under gantries when propelled by another vehicle?

And if someone decides to transport a motorbike on the back of a backie/trailer, is the motorbike's owner charged separately for the motorbike passing under gantries?
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It happened the other day. They charged a car that had been written off on the back of a tow truck.
 
How's about these for some shocking statistics that I calculated. This looks at toll cost vs salary for phase 1 (which is now complete) and phase 2 (if we pay for e-tolls and let them continue). Lowest payment bracket is Nazir Ali's stated R100 per month (and required increases to pay their debt), and average payment is the weighted average payments made by all road users (and required increases to pay their debt). GFIP phase 2 kicks in in 2016...

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Tander said:
Those cars are not using the road are they?
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My point was that the cameras at the gantries and the systems in place behind those cameras, don't give a crap about how a vehicle managed to move from point A to point B, as long as the numberplate is legible the system will do what it does regardless.

Garyvdh said:
It happened the other day. They charged a car that had been written off on the back of a tow truck.
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Ouch.

I am now wondering if there is any law/regulation that requires the destruction of number plates of vehicles that have been written off and would it be the owner of the vehicle that is responsible for ensuring that their written off vehicle's number plates are destroyed or whoever is in possession of the car at the time it is written off (e.g. insurance company).
 
My dad has etagged his car. Oh the shame...:o
 
Around Fourways this morning we spotted along Witkoppen/Cedar probably about 10 tagged cars out of several hundred - need to check out Cedar Square and how the queues at the etoll shop are as I am wondering if people remain defiant or if it is just South African complacency.
 
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