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The Generations Soapie / SABC stand off
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their voters/fans love it. most of their action/inaction revolves around keeping their voters happy/hypnotized
ToxicBunny
Oi! Leave me out of this...
Oh, I thought they just paid their voters with promises and food parcels and then screwed them over the next day...
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yea.. don't worry.. I was under the same impression!
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
WE WILL NOT BE HELD TO RANSOM: SABC
The SABC will not allow itself to be held to ransom by actors, the public broadcaster's COO Hlaudi Motsoeneng said on Friday.
"We are not going to be held [to] ransom. When there is [a] dispute with workers they still need to come to work," he told journalists in Johannesburg.
Sixteen Generations soapy actors were fired this week after they went on strike.
The cast claimed that the broadcaster and the production company MMSV had failed to deliver on promises it made to them during their strike last year.
Motsoeneng said the public broadcaster could not allow "anarchy".
"If you have issues at work you cannot say 'I'm not going to work'. This is anarchy which we cannot allow at the SABC."
He had told the actors he understood their complaints but they should go to work as there were processes that needed to be followed to resolve their issues.
"We agree we need to treat actors with dignity because they are not just entertainers but workers."
MMSV's Mfundi Vundla said the production company had a contract with the SABC and had to deliver.
"We have the responsibility to deliver episodes on time to live up to our contract."
He said when actors withheld their services the producers had to act.
Some of the actors fired included Menzi Ngubane, who plays the character of ruthless businessman Sbusiso Dlomo, Nambitha Mpumlwana (Mawande), Patrick Shai (Patrick Tlaole), Sophie Ndaba (Queen Ndaba), Seputla Sebogodi (Kenneth Mashaba), Winnie Ntshaba (Khetiwe Buthelezi) and Katlego Danke (Dineo Dlomo).
Source : Sapa /lk/jk/ar/lp
Date : 22 Aug 2014 12:25
The SABC will not allow itself to be held to ransom by actors, the public broadcaster's COO Hlaudi Motsoeneng said on Friday.
"We are not going to be held [to] ransom. When there is [a] dispute with workers they still need to come to work," he told journalists in Johannesburg.
Sixteen Generations soapy actors were fired this week after they went on strike.
The cast claimed that the broadcaster and the production company MMSV had failed to deliver on promises it made to them during their strike last year.
Motsoeneng said the public broadcaster could not allow "anarchy".
"If you have issues at work you cannot say 'I'm not going to work'. This is anarchy which we cannot allow at the SABC."
He had told the actors he understood their complaints but they should go to work as there were processes that needed to be followed to resolve their issues.
"We agree we need to treat actors with dignity because they are not just entertainers but workers."
MMSV's Mfundi Vundla said the production company had a contract with the SABC and had to deliver.
"We have the responsibility to deliver episodes on time to live up to our contract."
He said when actors withheld their services the producers had to act.
Some of the actors fired included Menzi Ngubane, who plays the character of ruthless businessman Sbusiso Dlomo, Nambitha Mpumlwana (Mawande), Patrick Shai (Patrick Tlaole), Sophie Ndaba (Queen Ndaba), Seputla Sebogodi (Kenneth Mashaba), Winnie Ntshaba (Khetiwe Buthelezi) and Katlego Danke (Dineo Dlomo).
Source : Sapa /lk/jk/ar/lp
Date : 22 Aug 2014 12:25
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
'Generations' actors to be reinstated
Minister Nathi Mthethwa, senior SABC officials and the actors met Monday....
http://ewn.co.za/2014/08/26/Arts-ministry-convinces-SABC-to-reinstate-axed-actors
Minister Nathi Mthethwa, senior SABC officials and the actors met Monday....
http://ewn.co.za/2014/08/26/Arts-ministry-convinces-SABC-to-reinstate-axed-actors
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
MWASA LEFT OUT OF SABC CONSULTATION
There is a deliberate strategy by the SABC to exclude the Media Workers' Association of SA (Mwasa) from policy deliberations, the union said on Tuesday.
"The SABC has no option but to include Mwasa in this process. It is a matter of rights," the union's general secretary Tuwani Gumani said.
"They cannot pretend that we don't exist."
He said in a letter to SABC employee relations general manager Mandiwe Nkosi on Monday that the union was inadvertently notified of some "plenary consultation processes" under way regarding company policy reviews.
"Further exclusion of Mwasa from these and similar engagements will be challenged legally," Gumani said to Nkosi.
SABC spokesman Kaizer Kganyago said the broadcaster would comment on the matter "in due course".
Mwasa lost bargaining rights at the SABC in 2011 because its members did not constitute 20 percent or more of employees at the broadcaster.
Gumani said there were several disputes on the matter and it subsequently went to the Labour Court.
The court ruled that the matter was not urgent, and the dispute was taken to the Commission for Conciliation, Mediation, and Arbitration (CCMA).
"The CCMA issued a certificate of non-resolution on Thursday," Gumani said.
"The matter will now go to the Labour Court if the SABC does not agree to arbitration," he said.
Source : Sapa /aa/jje/lp/jk
Date : 26 Aug 2014 15:35
There is a deliberate strategy by the SABC to exclude the Media Workers' Association of SA (Mwasa) from policy deliberations, the union said on Tuesday.
"The SABC has no option but to include Mwasa in this process. It is a matter of rights," the union's general secretary Tuwani Gumani said.
"They cannot pretend that we don't exist."
He said in a letter to SABC employee relations general manager Mandiwe Nkosi on Monday that the union was inadvertently notified of some "plenary consultation processes" under way regarding company policy reviews.
"Further exclusion of Mwasa from these and similar engagements will be challenged legally," Gumani said to Nkosi.
SABC spokesman Kaizer Kganyago said the broadcaster would comment on the matter "in due course".
Mwasa lost bargaining rights at the SABC in 2011 because its members did not constitute 20 percent or more of employees at the broadcaster.
Gumani said there were several disputes on the matter and it subsequently went to the Labour Court.
The court ruled that the matter was not urgent, and the dispute was taken to the Commission for Conciliation, Mediation, and Arbitration (CCMA).
"The CCMA issued a certificate of non-resolution on Thursday," Gumani said.
"The matter will now go to the Labour Court if the SABC does not agree to arbitration," he said.
Source : Sapa /aa/jje/lp/jk
Date : 26 Aug 2014 15:35
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
MOTSOENENG IS A LIAR: MTHETHWA
SABC COO Hlaudi Motsoeneng is a liar, the general secretary of the Creative Workers Union of SA said on Tuesday.
"Hlaudi is a pathetic liar," said Eugene Mthethwa in Johannesburg.
"We have evidence, e-mails and meetings, to prove that he is a lying about this dispute."
He was speaking at a media briefing, attended by the 16 Generations actors who went on strike.
His allegations about Motsoeneng were refuted by the SABC on Tuesday. The SABC said it had "no idea what Mthethwa was talking about".
"They can walk over my dead body before he fires them (the actors)," said Mthethwa at the briefing.
He said the actors would only go back to work once their demands were met. "If they fire one they must fire all."
The actors, who were fired last week, formed the Generations Actors Guild (GAG).
GAG was formed to improve salaries and the working conditions of the 16 actors, as well as all actors at the SABC.
Many of them who were seated on stage at the Barney Simon theatre in Newtown became emotional during the briefing.
Actors who were fired and were members of GAG include Menzi Ngubane, who plays the character of ruthless businessman Sbusiso Dlomo, Nambitha Mpumlwana (Mawande), Patrick Shai (Patrick Tlaole), Sophie Ndaba (Queen Ndaba), Seputla Sebogodi (Kenneth Mashaba), Winnie Ntshaba (Khetiwe Buthelezi) and Katlego Danke (Dineo Dlomo).
They claimed that the broadcaster and the production company MMSV had failed to deliver on promises it made to them during their strike last year.
They were reportedly promised three-year contracts which they had not received. They also wanted salary adjustments.
Mthethwa said the contract came from negotiations that were made in July last year.
He stood on stage with folders of documents, which he claimed contained the evidence to prove this.
Motsoeneng said during a media briefing on Friday that the public broadcaster would not be held to ransom by the actors.
"We are not going to be held ransom. When there is dispute with workers they still need to come to work," he told media in Johannesburg at the time.
"If you have issues at work you cannot say 'I'm not going to work'. This is anarchy, which we cannot allow at the SABC."
He had told the actors he understood their complaints but they should go to work as there were processes that needed to be followed to resolve their issues.
"We agree we need to treat actors with dignity because they are not just entertainers, but workers."
SABC spokesman Kaizer Kganyago told Sapa on Tuesday that the public broadcaster was not aware of the claim that Mthethwa made regarding Motsoeneng.
"He [Mthethwa] cant substantiate this, we don't know what he is talking about," said Kganyago.
He said Mthethwa should not personalise the matter.
Source : Sapa /kd/fg/lp/ks
Date : 26 Aug 2014 17:40
SABC COO Hlaudi Motsoeneng is a liar, the general secretary of the Creative Workers Union of SA said on Tuesday.
"Hlaudi is a pathetic liar," said Eugene Mthethwa in Johannesburg.
"We have evidence, e-mails and meetings, to prove that he is a lying about this dispute."
He was speaking at a media briefing, attended by the 16 Generations actors who went on strike.
His allegations about Motsoeneng were refuted by the SABC on Tuesday. The SABC said it had "no idea what Mthethwa was talking about".
"They can walk over my dead body before he fires them (the actors)," said Mthethwa at the briefing.
He said the actors would only go back to work once their demands were met. "If they fire one they must fire all."
The actors, who were fired last week, formed the Generations Actors Guild (GAG).
GAG was formed to improve salaries and the working conditions of the 16 actors, as well as all actors at the SABC.
Many of them who were seated on stage at the Barney Simon theatre in Newtown became emotional during the briefing.
Actors who were fired and were members of GAG include Menzi Ngubane, who plays the character of ruthless businessman Sbusiso Dlomo, Nambitha Mpumlwana (Mawande), Patrick Shai (Patrick Tlaole), Sophie Ndaba (Queen Ndaba), Seputla Sebogodi (Kenneth Mashaba), Winnie Ntshaba (Khetiwe Buthelezi) and Katlego Danke (Dineo Dlomo).
They claimed that the broadcaster and the production company MMSV had failed to deliver on promises it made to them during their strike last year.
They were reportedly promised three-year contracts which they had not received. They also wanted salary adjustments.
Mthethwa said the contract came from negotiations that were made in July last year.
He stood on stage with folders of documents, which he claimed contained the evidence to prove this.
Motsoeneng said during a media briefing on Friday that the public broadcaster would not be held to ransom by the actors.
"We are not going to be held ransom. When there is dispute with workers they still need to come to work," he told media in Johannesburg at the time.
"If you have issues at work you cannot say 'I'm not going to work'. This is anarchy, which we cannot allow at the SABC."
He had told the actors he understood their complaints but they should go to work as there were processes that needed to be followed to resolve their issues.
"We agree we need to treat actors with dignity because they are not just entertainers, but workers."
SABC spokesman Kaizer Kganyago told Sapa on Tuesday that the public broadcaster was not aware of the claim that Mthethwa made regarding Motsoeneng.
"He [Mthethwa] cant substantiate this, we don't know what he is talking about," said Kganyago.
He said Mthethwa should not personalise the matter.
Source : Sapa /kd/fg/lp/ks
Date : 26 Aug 2014 17:40
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
SOAPIE DISPUTE LIKE APARTHEID: KANI
The dispute between the SABC, production company MMSV and the fired Generation soapie actors, is being handled in an apartheid manner, renowned actor and playwright John Kani said on Tuesday.
"It carries the residue of an apartheid-style master, servant relationship," Kani said in Johannesburg.
He was speaking at a media briefing, attended by the 16 Generations actors who went on strike.
Kani said the dispute was "an embarrassment" for the democracy that people fought for during apartheid.
"I have stab wounds, I have evaded assassination and I spent time in detention -- and this is not what I fought for as an actor."
The actors, who were fired last week, formed the Generations Actors Guild (GAG), to improve salaries and working conditions of the 16 actors, as well as all actors at the SABC.
Many of them who were seated on stage at the Barney Simon theatre in Newtown became emotional during the briefing.
Actors who were fired and were members of GAG include Menzi Ngubane, who plays the character of ruthless businessman Sbusiso Dlomo, Nambitha Mpumlwana (Mawande), Patrick Shai (Patrick Tlaole), Sophie Ndaba (Queen Ndaba), Seputla Sebogodi (Kenneth Mashaba), Winnie Ntshaba (Khetiwe Buthelezi) and Katlego Danke (Dineo Dlomo).
Kani's son, Atandwa, was also one of the Generations actors who were fired.
The actors claimed that the broadcaster and the production company MMSV had failed to deliver on promises it made to them during their strike last year.
They were reportedly promised three-year contracts which they had not received. They also wanted salary adjustments.
Kani said the public broadcaster and the production company could not "dispose the actors like diapers".
"They warm our living room every evening, they are dependent on the actors," said Kani.
He said the industry needed a change in mindset, and that actors should be regarded as academics and professionals.
"We are an academic entity. These people have studied to get where they are, they sell excellence."
As such, Kani said, actors were not employed but rather engaged with on a contractual basis.
"If we are in a contractual relationship and that contract is terminated, an engagement needs to take place."
He called upon the unions involved to take charge and fight for the betterment of the actors.
"We say to our unions, it is time to show our teeth and stand up. We need a plan of action."
Kani urged people who were considering auditioning for the vacant actor positions on Generations to avoid doing so.
"There are no vacancies at Generations, so don't go look for work there."
Source : Sapa /kd/ks/lp
Date : 26 Aug 2014 18:49
The dispute between the SABC, production company MMSV and the fired Generation soapie actors, is being handled in an apartheid manner, renowned actor and playwright John Kani said on Tuesday.
"It carries the residue of an apartheid-style master, servant relationship," Kani said in Johannesburg.
He was speaking at a media briefing, attended by the 16 Generations actors who went on strike.
Kani said the dispute was "an embarrassment" for the democracy that people fought for during apartheid.
"I have stab wounds, I have evaded assassination and I spent time in detention -- and this is not what I fought for as an actor."
The actors, who were fired last week, formed the Generations Actors Guild (GAG), to improve salaries and working conditions of the 16 actors, as well as all actors at the SABC.
Many of them who were seated on stage at the Barney Simon theatre in Newtown became emotional during the briefing.
Actors who were fired and were members of GAG include Menzi Ngubane, who plays the character of ruthless businessman Sbusiso Dlomo, Nambitha Mpumlwana (Mawande), Patrick Shai (Patrick Tlaole), Sophie Ndaba (Queen Ndaba), Seputla Sebogodi (Kenneth Mashaba), Winnie Ntshaba (Khetiwe Buthelezi) and Katlego Danke (Dineo Dlomo).
Kani's son, Atandwa, was also one of the Generations actors who were fired.
The actors claimed that the broadcaster and the production company MMSV had failed to deliver on promises it made to them during their strike last year.
They were reportedly promised three-year contracts which they had not received. They also wanted salary adjustments.
Kani said the public broadcaster and the production company could not "dispose the actors like diapers".
"They warm our living room every evening, they are dependent on the actors," said Kani.
He said the industry needed a change in mindset, and that actors should be regarded as academics and professionals.
"We are an academic entity. These people have studied to get where they are, they sell excellence."
As such, Kani said, actors were not employed but rather engaged with on a contractual basis.
"If we are in a contractual relationship and that contract is terminated, an engagement needs to take place."
He called upon the unions involved to take charge and fight for the betterment of the actors.
"We say to our unions, it is time to show our teeth and stand up. We need a plan of action."
Kani urged people who were considering auditioning for the vacant actor positions on Generations to avoid doing so.
"There are no vacancies at Generations, so don't go look for work there."
Source : Sapa /kd/ks/lp
Date : 26 Aug 2014 18:49
The_Assimilator
Executive Member
"Academics and professionals"? I didn't know Generations was a comedy!
R13...
Honorary Master
Sapa fail
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
BOYCOTT GENERATIONS: COSATU
Cosatu wants viewers to take part in a week long "switch off" of local soap opera Generations, general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi said on Tuesday.
"The campaign therefore has to be taken to a new level," he told reporters in Johannesburg.
"What you cannot win through negotiation. You have to win on the streets."
The switch-off would start on September 15 and include repeats and the weekend omnibus. The campaign would include pickets and sending letters to the ministers of communication, labour, arts and culture, and trade and industry.
Sixteen generation actors were fired on August 18 for going on strike over a wage dispute.
Thirteen of these actors attended the media briefing.
Vavi said the Congress of SA Trade Unions and the Creative Workers Union of SA agreed to campaign for the actors' demands.
These demands included a reduction of working hours to 10, social benefits, an end to inconsistencies in remuneration, for the SABC to pay royalties, and better working conditions.
"Media reports that Generations actors earned an average of R55,000 a month is nonsense, " Vavi said.
"Generations made a profit of R500 million in one financial year, but failed to pay royalties calculated over 11 years... that is blatant robbery," he said.
Source : Sapa /gq/th/lp
Date : 09 Sep 2014 12:05
Cosatu wants viewers to take part in a week long "switch off" of local soap opera Generations, general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi said on Tuesday.
"The campaign therefore has to be taken to a new level," he told reporters in Johannesburg.
"What you cannot win through negotiation. You have to win on the streets."
The switch-off would start on September 15 and include repeats and the weekend omnibus. The campaign would include pickets and sending letters to the ministers of communication, labour, arts and culture, and trade and industry.
Sixteen generation actors were fired on August 18 for going on strike over a wage dispute.
Thirteen of these actors attended the media briefing.
Vavi said the Congress of SA Trade Unions and the Creative Workers Union of SA agreed to campaign for the actors' demands.
These demands included a reduction of working hours to 10, social benefits, an end to inconsistencies in remuneration, for the SABC to pay royalties, and better working conditions.
"Media reports that Generations actors earned an average of R55,000 a month is nonsense, " Vavi said.
"Generations made a profit of R500 million in one financial year, but failed to pay royalties calculated over 11 years... that is blatant robbery," he said.
Source : Sapa /gq/th/lp
Date : 09 Sep 2014 12:05
Rocket Raccoon
Executive Member
Already been doing my part for the last decade.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
lol... I've been boycotting the entire SABC for years now!
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
BOYCOTT GENERATIONS: NFPYM
The National Freedom Party youth on Tuesday urged people not to watch soap opera Generations with its new cast of "Mickey Mouse clowns".
"We are very disappointed at the manner in which the SABC and the big-headed Mr Mfundi Vundla handled the matter of the ex-Generations actors," NFP Youth Movement secretary general Maria Busi Tshabalala said in a statement.
On Monday, a relaunch of the soapie called "Generations -- The Legacy" aired on SABC 1. The case of the 16 actors fired from the soap opera during a wage dispute is still before the Commission for Conciliation, Mediation and Arbitration.
Tshabalala said the party was disappointed at how the SABC and Vundla, the soapie's creator, had fired the actors.
"As things stand, we strongly believe that not watching this soapie will show the SABC and Mr Vundla that we mean business when we demand that they bring back our talented actors.
"To the clowns who agreed to work in this new boring soapie, we warn them that once Mr Vundla have used them, he will throw them away as well and look for new buffoons.
"As the NFPYM we are not apologetic in our firm support of axed actors. We are 100 percent behind them and we call on all South Africans to do the same by boycotting Generations."
Source : Sapa /kd/th/jk
Date : 02 Dec 2014 13:06
The National Freedom Party youth on Tuesday urged people not to watch soap opera Generations with its new cast of "Mickey Mouse clowns".
"We are very disappointed at the manner in which the SABC and the big-headed Mr Mfundi Vundla handled the matter of the ex-Generations actors," NFP Youth Movement secretary general Maria Busi Tshabalala said in a statement.
On Monday, a relaunch of the soapie called "Generations -- The Legacy" aired on SABC 1. The case of the 16 actors fired from the soap opera during a wage dispute is still before the Commission for Conciliation, Mediation and Arbitration.
Tshabalala said the party was disappointed at how the SABC and Vundla, the soapie's creator, had fired the actors.
"As things stand, we strongly believe that not watching this soapie will show the SABC and Mr Vundla that we mean business when we demand that they bring back our talented actors.
"To the clowns who agreed to work in this new boring soapie, we warn them that once Mr Vundla have used them, he will throw them away as well and look for new buffoons.
"As the NFPYM we are not apologetic in our firm support of axed actors. We are 100 percent behind them and we call on all South Africans to do the same by boycotting Generations."
Source : Sapa /kd/th/jk
Date : 02 Dec 2014 13:06
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
GENERATIONS COURT PAPERS TO BE FILED
Lawyers representing 16 actors who were axed from SABC1 soap opera Generations will file a court application on Tuesday to halt a new version of the show.
"We are filing the papers on Tuesday, and after that we will be allocated a court date and a judge," Bulelani Mzamo said.
"We are going through the arrangements of having the actors come and sign the papers. We will file sometime during the course of the day, but if there is any problem, we will possibly file it by tomorrow [Wednesday] morning."
The group want the newly launched version of the soapie, Generations The Legacy, to be taken off screens. The actors allege the SABC reneged on a contract it signed after the actors were axed during a pay dispute last year.
Mzamo previously said the contract stated that the public broadcaster would pay the fees the actors had been demanding and was willing to reinstate them. This had not happened.
SABC spokesman Kaizer Kganyago reportedly said there were no plans to pull the plug on the soap opera.
"I have heard stories that the actors plan to get an interdict against the SABC, but we have nothing official from them," he said.
Source : Sapa /aa/th
Date : 13 Jan 2015 10:40
Lawyers representing 16 actors who were axed from SABC1 soap opera Generations will file a court application on Tuesday to halt a new version of the show.
"We are filing the papers on Tuesday, and after that we will be allocated a court date and a judge," Bulelani Mzamo said.
"We are going through the arrangements of having the actors come and sign the papers. We will file sometime during the course of the day, but if there is any problem, we will possibly file it by tomorrow [Wednesday] morning."
The group want the newly launched version of the soapie, Generations The Legacy, to be taken off screens. The actors allege the SABC reneged on a contract it signed after the actors were axed during a pay dispute last year.
Mzamo previously said the contract stated that the public broadcaster would pay the fees the actors had been demanding and was willing to reinstate them. This had not happened.
SABC spokesman Kaizer Kganyago reportedly said there were no plans to pull the plug on the soap opera.
"I have heard stories that the actors plan to get an interdict against the SABC, but we have nothing official from them," he said.
Source : Sapa /aa/th
Date : 13 Jan 2015 10:40