The Home Improvements Thread (2)

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DarkImpact said:
One of our geysers "burst". Considering installing a gas replacement. What is the current wisdom around gas geysers? Yay or Nay?
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I simply do not understand why everyone has issue with geysers bursting. It seems to be a finite life item in todays times? Or is it simply because the owners don't do preventative maintenance?

My house has a low pressure copper gravity geyser that is god knows how old and still works without an issue and the water is plenty warm and clean. Pressure is not the greatest but is it fine for daily use - in reality the only thing I cannot do is use both my ensuit shower + main shower at the same time. But we don't see this as much of a hassle.

I have been told by plumbers and electricians alike that I can expect this geyser to continue working for many decades to come.

Now my question is, why would I move to a new high pressure geyser that so many swear by? Apart from the obvious water pressure benefits, what other benefits are there?

IMO, The risk seems so much higher to me.
 
TheBadMadMan said:
I simply do not understand why everyone has issue with geysers bursting. It seems to be a finite life item in todays times? Or is it simply because the owners don't do preventative maintenance?

My house has a low pressure copper gravity geyser that is god knows how old and still works without an issue and the water is plenty warm and clean. Pressure is not the greatest but is it fine for daily use - in reality the only thing I cannot do is use both my ensuit shower + main shower at the same time. But we don't see this as much of a hassle.

I have been told by plumbers and electricians alike that I can expect this geyser to continue working for many decades to come.

Now my question is, why would I move to a new high pressure geyser that so many swear by? Apart from the obvious water pressure benefits, what other benefits are there?

IMO, The risk seems so much higher to me.
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planned obsolescence

noun

  1. a policy of producing consumer goods that rapidly become obsolete and so require replacing, achieved by frequent changes in design, termination of the supply of spare parts, and the use of non-durable materials.
 
TheBadMadMan said:
I simply do not understand why everyone has issue with geysers bursting. It seems to be a finite life item in todays times? Or is it simply because the owners don't do preventative maintenance?

My house has a low pressure copper gravity geyser that is god knows how old and still works without an issue and the water is plenty warm and clean. Pressure is not the greatest but is it fine for daily use - in reality the only thing I cannot do is use both my ensuit shower + main shower at the same time. But we don't see this as much of a hassle.

I have been told by plumbers and electricians alike that I can expect this geyser to continue working for many decades to come.

Now my question is, why would I move to a new high pressure geyser that so many swear by? Apart from the obvious water pressure benefits, what other benefits are there?

IMO, The risk seems so much higher to me.
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When your copper geyser goes - just check what it will be replaced with first. Hopefully you can get a better Tecron copper geyser from insurance at least.

I doubt it will still last decades... I had mine start leaking in two properties when they were about 20 years old. Both failed with slow leaks which just happened to be discovered along with other issues.

Not sure how badly the 400kpa will fail... I have a 7 year old cheap Kwikot - don't maintain it, but I know the relief valve works.
 
What is typical 'maintenance' on a standard Kwikot geyser? Replacing the anode?
 
i would also like to know what are the typical maintenance things to do on a geyser. My previous one burst about 5 years ago and was replaced with a new one that even has a Gardena attachment of somesorts at the bottom. Looks like it is for flushing the system or something. no idea. Geysers dont come with proper manuals
 
Steamy Tom said:
if it were me i would just go for a solar geyser straight away
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Yeah I would go with a solar option. Current temp today, only Sun.
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Papa Smurf said:
i would also like to know what are the typical maintenance things to do on a geyser. My previous one burst about 5 years ago and was replaced with a new one that even has a Gardena attachment of somesorts at the bottom. Looks like it is for flushing the system or something. no idea. Geysers dont come with proper manuals
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You can get geyser manuals online - the only maintenance item they typically list is replacing the anode every year although that's a bit excessive. I would consider replacing every 3 years or so. I replaced mine the last time my element went.

For something that's supposed to be done regularly, it's almost never done - hence the short lifespan of most geysers. I chatted to the plumber who replaced mine and he said he almost never replaces them.
 
me_ said:
You can get geyser manuals online - the only maintenance item they typically list is replacing the anode every year although that's a bit excessive. I would consider replacing every 3 years or so. I replaced mine the last time my element went.

For something that's supposed to be done regularly, it's almost never done - hence the short lifespan of most geysers. I chatted to the plumber who replaced mine and he said he almost never replaces them.
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Cool project, i should haul the anode out and inspect it, the last one that came out looked like it was dragged on the dam floor, was caked in 'mud'
 
DarkImpact said:
One of our geysers "burst". Considering installing a gas replacement. What is the current wisdom around gas geysers? Yay or Nay?
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We have two, one is a fixed rate 5l/min internally mounted 'geyser' and the other a variable rate, 16l/min, externally mounted 'geyser' and besides taking a little time to get used to how they work they have been great.
 
TheBadMadMan said:
I simply do not understand why everyone has issue with geysers bursting. It seems to be a finite life item in todays times? Or is it simply because the owners don't do preventative maintenance?

My house has a low pressure copper gravity geyser that is god knows how old and still works without an issue and the water is plenty warm and clean. Pressure is not the greatest but is it fine for daily use - in reality the only thing I cannot do is use both my ensuit shower + main shower at the same time. But we don't see this as much of a hassle.

I have been told by plumbers and electricians alike that I can expect this geyser to continue working for many decades to come.

Now my question is, why would I move to a new high pressure geyser that so many swear by? Apart from the obvious water pressure benefits, what other benefits are there?

IMO, The risk seems so much higher to me.
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Our house was originally fitted with one of these when it was built in '49, the trusses in our roof are still there for the feed tank but the geyser was long gone when we bought the house.
 
Papa Smurf said:
Cool project, i should haul the anode out and inspect it, the last one that came out looked like it was dragged on the dam floor, was caked in 'mud'
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This means it was doing it's job. Once your anode goes bad all that gunk starts eating away at your actual geyser, before you know it pop goes your little house kettle.
 
TheBadMadMan said:
This means it was doing it's job. Once your anode goes bad all that gunk starts eating away at your actual geyser, before you know it pop goes your little house kettle.
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oh cool, good to know, so i should take it out every coupla years and give it a good clean? This thing is caked in it, i think its still in my garage

EDIT: No wait, its the element that is full of the mud, i dont even know what the anode even looks like
 
i just googled it now and saw pics that the anode is part of the element, in my case the entire thing is drenched in mud.
 
Look for local articles in connection with your geyser, that ^ was USA.
From my experience +- 1.5 years/ anode .
Usually called sacrificial anode...sacrifice anode not geyser.
 
D tj said:
Look for local articles in connection with your geyser, that ^ was USA.
From my experience +- 1.5 years/ anode .
Usually called sacrificial anode...sacrifice anode not geyser.
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regulation and time frames may change based on region, but the "why" is the same.
 
Anyone moved an wallmount aircon from 1 room to another?


Want toove the master bedroom AC unit to the guest room and out the new unit in the master bedroom.
 
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