The Home Improvements Thread (2)

[ToxicBunny]

Interesting.. every time I have used or come across it, it's done exactly what it was supposed to do..

What were you doing with it..?

Sticking skirting to the wall actually.

2 days later the skirting was lying on the floor.

 

[WAslayer]

Sticking skirting to the wall actually.

2 days later the skirting was lying on the floor.

Was the no more nails left on the walls or on the back of the skirtings..? Sounds like either the wall or the skirting had a surface or residue that the no more nails was not able to adhere to..

 

[surface]

I was also thinking no more nails... I have a tube somewhere. Not really a fan of using glue - but will do so.

I have this one. I know it is wood glue but I have used it for skirtings and didn't have issue yet.

Alcolin Cold Glue - White (5L)

Buy Alcolin Cold Glue - White (5L) Online or Locate Your Nearest Builders Warehouse Store. ✓ Secure shopping ✓ 100% Contactless ✓ Reliable Delivery ✓ Many ways to pay!

www.builders.co.za

 

[ToxicBunny]

Was the no more nails left on the walls or on the back of the skirtings..? Sounds like either the wall or the skirting had a surface or residue that the no more nails was not able to adhere to..

That was my thought as well when I saw it, but it was on both... just hadn't held together. The wall was cleaned and prepped and all that because I was keenly aware that a dirty wall would be a problem and I didn't want to waste the money I'd spent on the No More Nails.

I am just generally not a fan of glues because in my experience they don't work anywhere nearly as well as advertisted. Hell even "super glue" is just generally super shyte these days.

 

[WAslayer]

That was my thought as well when I saw it, but it was on both... just hadn't held together. The wall was cleaned and prepped and all that because I was keenly aware that a dirty wall would be a problem and I didn't want to waste the money I'd spent on the No More Nails.

I am just generally not a fan of glues because in my experience they don't work anywhere nearly as well as advertisted. Hell even "super glue" is just generally super shyte these days.

Strange indeed..

 

[ToxicBunny]

Strange indeed..

Yeah, forced me to be a bit more creative and such though, so now all the skirtings are screwed into the wall properly, and the smaller sections where I would have had to glue to the wall ended up being cut and wood glued and nailed together before going onto the wall. Bit stressful but it actually ended up looking much much better since everything fits absolutely perfectly and sits nicely.

 

[xrapidx]

I've got a tube of the stuff in the garage - might have had the same experience as @ToxicBunny because is still full - can't recall why I bought it though.

 

[ElixirCoder]

In my experience, no more nails works well in dry warm conditions when curing. I've found it doesn't stick well when I'm using it in humid conditions.

 

[ToxicBunny]

In my experience, no more nails works well in dry warm conditions when curing. I've found it doesn't stick well when I'm using it in humid conditions.

That might explain why it doesn't work for me...

Its always humid in my neck of the woods...

 

[Smokey mcpot]

I’m not a big fan of no more nails either, but it seems to do the job when used in the correct application. I’ve Lao found that it needs quite some time to cure and needs to be held in place for a day.
I’ve actually used it and the damn thing I’m trying to remove does not come off as easily as I thought... so I left it because I’d rather not deal with the repairs after haha.

 

[HunterNW]

I’m not a big fan of no more nails either, but it seems to do the job when used in the correct application. I’ve Lao found that it needs quite some time to cure and needs to be held in place for a day.
I’ve actually used it and the damn thing I’m trying to remove does not come off as easily as I thought... so I left it because I’d rather not deal with the repairs after haha.

That's the "trick" with no more nails.

 

[SAguy]

This is the one the Flooring Warehouse uses with their installations, it's cheaper than no more nails too.

Fix it montage solvent based 350g t rex

*Suitable for porous and non-porous materials * Can be applied onto uneven surfaces * Water Resistant * Can be used for the bonding of Polystyrene * Can be applied with

leroymerlin.co.za

When I took the skirtings off (twice) it took wall with it.
I actually got a guy here today spending his whole day scraping and sanding the glue off the back of the skirtings so I can reinstall.

 

[Düber]

The only glue I have found that works is this,

Adhesive all weather EVO-STICK Sticks Like Sh*t clear 290ml

? Excellent adhesion and initial grab ? Can be used in all weather conditions ? Wide service temperature range of -40°C to +100°C ? Low odour

leroymerlin.co.za

I have used it to glue tiles to a wooden wall so I'm pretty sure it will hold some skirtings in place.

 

[ElixirCoder]

The only glue I have found that works is this,

Adhesive all weather EVO-STICK Sticks Like Sh*t clear 290ml

? Excellent adhesion and initial grab ? Can be used in all weather conditions ? Wide service temperature range of -40°C to +100°C ? Low odour

leroymerlin.co.za

I have used it to glue tiles to a wooden wall so I'm pretty sure it will hold some skirtings in place.

Well anything that bonds with a grop must be some special ****

 

[SAguy]

Well anything that bonds with a grop must be some special ****

Don't be silly, it's a typo... they obviously meant to type "grope".

 

[SAguy]

Wow, this thing makes life so much easier. I usually use just a hammer and the little pull bar, but this thing frees up a hand to help guide the board in.

Hammer pulling ledge

3-in-1 function: for joint-free attachment of laminate and parquet without hammer, tapping block and pulling ledge for joining the panels adjacent to the wall to the area already laid can be used in push or pull direction replaces hammer, tapping block and pulling ledge reduces the error rate to...

leroymerlin.co.za

Definitely recommend if you have a lot of laminate/vinyl planks to install.

Not a single edge damaged yet either from using it, and it distributes the force over a wider area than the normal pull bar/hammer setup.

Only downside is that it needs a bit of space on the edge pieces against the wall to fit in. If you have very narrow skirtings the space between board and wall may be too big.

 

[WAslayer]

Only downside is that it needs a bit of space on the edge pieces against the wall to fit in. If you have very narrow skirtings the space between board and wall may be too big.

But you should be leaving space for expansion between the walls and the planks anyway, so looks this thing will fit in perfectly in the gap you are supposed to leave to allow for expansion.. at least for laminate flooring.. have not done vinyl yet, so don't know if vinyl needs expansion gaps..

Also, I would redo skirtings anyway, of I lay down vinyl/laminate flooring.. would make for a much neater finish..

 

[SAguy]

But you should be leaving space for expansion between the walls and the planks anyway, so looks this thing will fit in perfectly in the gap you are supposed to leave to allow for expansion.. at least for laminate flooring.. have not done vinyl yet, so don't know if vinyl needs expansion gaps..

Also, I would redo skirtings anyway, of I lay down vinyl/laminate flooring.. would make for a much neater finish..

Vinyl planks are installed the same way as laminate planks, so gap is also required.

Yeah, it does fit in the expansion gap but I found that the expansion gap is just a touch bigger than I would normally make it. I would still recommend having a pull bar available for those tight spots around doors and so on.

 

[Priapus]

Do you guys think installing water tanks to supply garden, pool and general outside stuff is worth it? Not sure we get enough rain to fill up a single 5000L tank?

Just something I have been thinking about a lot, lately.

I'm not sure how a JoJo tank would work for the house and if its worth the investment. We haven't had a water shortage for a long time. But I haven't looked at cost savings either if it would bring down the CoJ bill.

 

[Tinuva]

Do you guys think installing water tanks to supply garden, pool and general outside stuff is worth it? Not sure we get enough rain to fill up a single 5000L tank?

Just something I have been thinking about a lot, lately.

In my opinion rain water storage is nice for emergencies only.

If I fill pool and water garden over summer, my 2x 5kl tanks last less than a month. This is in Cape town.

Personally, it makes more sense to find out if a wellpoint or borehole is an option at your house. As that you only need a small 500l tank and fill it up as needed and you won't run out over summer since you can refill it when needed. Also great way to get water into your house for toilets etc without needing too expensive filters which you will need if you want to drink or shower in it.