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Rigid Core Vinyl plank flooring or Laminate? Click or glue-down? Looking for recommendation please, brands too if possible.

Initially I was keen on Vinyl strips, the best flooring you can possibly buy, MUST be glue down. Decided on a brand and colour then a builder (who I trust) came to quote on a bathroom revamp and said nooooooooooooo, don't touch that stuff, it buckles in the South African sun. He said you need laminates and recommended a brand and an installer. I check it out and the installer has complaints about him on Hellopeter - they say he's rude, offhand etc.

Anyway a second builder came to quote on the bathroom so I can compare quotes. He comes highly recommended, pics of his house are beautiful and he says noooooooooooo, don't touch laminates, Rigid Core Vinyl plank is the best thing under the sun. He's delighted with his - when did he have it installed? - Nine months ago! Now nine months is no big deal in my book and if he'd said nine years I might pay attention. He knows a fabulous installer and I check the website - they lay a locally manufactured product. Not dissing local in general but it's fair to say I'm not wildly keen.
 
I am living in a house that has both types of vinyl but not in a bathroom.

Our main living areas - The entire entrance hall, dining, kitchen and scullery ( which could count as conditions a bit a like a bathroom) are stick on vinyl (over tiles) .Installed by previous owners and we have been here 6 years so far. It's amazing . Quiet , rather strong and always nice to walk on barefoot. We initially thought and so do many of our guests it's a real wooden floor

Brand I don't know, but a comment of another floorer who came to put in wood laminate in our bedrooms when moved in admired the workmanship of whoever did it. He estimated then (2016) our floor must have cost over 120k. I didn't have money to our vinyl laminate in the bedrooms when we moved in so went with a German brand that is actually quite good so far too.

I have children and we have some scratch marks in it now, but it's holding up to all the crap they foist on it, dropping things etc

Then we have vinyl laminate panels in our lounge which replaced the wood laminate panels destroyed by roof water damage.

Previous owner told me she had started with lounge with wood laminate and was so disappointed hence the rest of house then became that stick on vinyl.

The vinyl click on panels they are equally good but you can feel that it's laminate panel as there is movement (and that was attached to a floor which was leveled with self leveling screed)

If I had a choice, I would probably do stick on vinyl on a leveled screed floors - it just feels solid
 
TedLasso said:
I am living in a house that has both types of vinyl but not in a bathroom.

Our main living areas - The entire entrance hall, dining, kitchen and scullery ( which could count as conditions a bit a like a bathroom) are stick on vinyl (over tiles) .Installed by previous owners and we have been here 6 years so far. It's amazing . Quiet , rather strong and always nice to walk on barefoot. We initially thought and so do many of our guests it's a real wooden floor

Brand I don't know, but a comment of another floorer who came to put in wood laminate in our bedrooms when moved in admired the workmanship of whoever did it. He estimated then (2016) our floor must have cost over 120k. I didn't have money to our vinyl laminate in the bedrooms when we moved in so went with a German brand that is actually quite good so far too.

I have children and we have some scratch marks in it now, but it's holding up to all the crap they foist on it, dropping things etc

Then we have vinyl laminate panels in our lounge which replaced the wood laminate panels destroyed by roof water damage.

Previous owner told me she had started with lounge with wood laminate and was so disappointed hence the rest of house then became that stick on vinyl.

The vinyl click on panels they are equally good but you can feel that it's laminate panel as there is movement (and that was attached to a floor which was leveled with self leveling screed)

If I had a choice, I would probably do stick on vinyl on a leveled screed floors - it just feels solid
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Thanks for the info.

Does the stick on vinyl in your living area get a lot of sun?
 
maumau said:
Rigid Core Vinyl plank flooring or Laminate? Click or glue-down? Looking for recommendation please, brands too if possible.

Initially I was keen on Vinyl strips, the best flooring you can possibly buy, MUST be glue down. Decided on a brand and colour then a builder (who I trust) came to quote on a bathroom revamp and said nooooooooooooo, don't touch that stuff, it buckles in the South African sun. He said you need laminates and recommended a brand and an installer. I check it out and the installer has complaints about him on Hellopeter - they say he's rude, offhand etc.

Anyway a second builder came to quote on the bathroom so I can compare quotes. He comes highly recommended, pics of his house are beautiful and he says noooooooooooo, don't touch laminates, Rigid Core Vinyl plank is the best thing under the sun. He's delighted with his - when did he have it installed? - Nine months ago! Now nine months is no big deal in my book and if he'd said nine years I might pay attention. He knows a fabulous installer and I check the website - they lay a locally manufactured product. Not dissing local in general but it's fair to say I'm not wildly keen.
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Glue down vinyl is superior to laminate.. laminate over time the colour fades away and the edges of the panels wear away, resulting in gaps and movement..

Been house hunting recently and 3 or 4 of the houses have had laminate flooring for a few years and they all suffered the same fate..

We did glue down vinyl in one of our bedrooms and it's been great so far, just over a year now.. in the other bedroom, did a floating nu-vinyl floor.. prefer the glue down one but, the nu-vinyl looks and feels superior to laminate..
 
WAslayer said:
Glue down vinyl is superior to laminate.. laminate over time the colour fades away and the edges of the panels wear away, resulting in gaps and movement..

Been house hunting recently and 3 or 4 of the houses have had laminate flooring for a few years and they all suffered the same fate..

We did glue down vinyl in one of our bedrooms and it's been great so far, just over a year now.. in the other bedroom, did a floating nu-vinyl floor.. prefer the glue down one but, the nu-vinyl looks and feels superior to laminate..
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Pics please
 
TedLasso said:
I am living in a house that has both types of vinyl but not in a bathroom.

Our main living areas - The entire entrance hall, dining, kitchen and scullery ( which could count as conditions a bit a like a bathroom) are stick on vinyl (over tiles) .Installed by previous owners and we have been here 6 years so far. It's amazing . Quiet , rather strong and always nice to walk on barefoot. We initially thought and so do many of our guests it's a real wooden floor

Brand I don't know, but a comment of another floorer who came to put in wood laminate in our bedrooms when moved in admired the workmanship of whoever did it. He estimated then (2016) our floor must have cost over 120k. I didn't have money to our vinyl laminate in the bedrooms when we moved in so went with a German brand that is actually quite good so far too.

I have children and we have some scratch marks in it now, but it's holding up to all the crap they foist on it, dropping things etc

Then we have vinyl laminate panels in our lounge which replaced the wood laminate panels destroyed by roof water damage.

Previous owner told me she had started with lounge with wood laminate and was so disappointed hence the rest of house then became that stick on vinyl.

The vinyl click on panels they are equally good but you can feel that it's laminate panel as there is movement (and that was attached to a floor which was leveled with self leveling screed)

If I had a choice, I would probably do stick on vinyl on a leveled screed floors - it just feels solid
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Its amazing how the flooring options evolved over the years. Who remembers the kak old linoleum(I used to call it novilon) floors of the 70s-80s era? Our schools also used to have them in the class rooms.

lino-mixed


1967-Linoleum-383-Lisa.jpg
 
W@P said:
Its amazing how the flooring options evolved over the years. Who remembers the kak old linoleum(I used to call it novilon) floors of the 70s-80s era? Our schools also used to have them in the class rooms.

lino-mixed


1967-Linoleum-383-Lisa.jpg
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Oupa is that you?????
 
maumau said:
Thanks for the info.

Does the stick on vinyl in your living area get a lot of sun?
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The house gets sun especially the entrance hall since we now have a glass (frosted) door (yes, we are mad to do this in South Africa) .. but it's holding up rather well. Entrance hall also has a big skylight (white/opal I guess - not transparent).

The amount of water, milk, vomit, etc my kids have targeted the floor with, it has held up. Nothing has even shown a hint of lifting/peeling. I really would like to know who did that work because they were definitely top notch.
 
TedLasso said:
The house gets sun especially the entrance hall since we now have a glass (frosted) door (yes, we are mad to do this in South Africa) .. but it's holding up rather well. Entrance hall also has a big skylight (white/opal I guess - not transparent).

The amount of water, milk, vomit, etc my kids have targeted the floor with, it has held up. Nothing has even shown a hint of lifting/peeling. I really would like to know who did that work because they were definitely top notch.
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Can never get enough light, even in ZA :thumbsup:
 
TedLasso said:
The house gets sun especially the entrance hall since we now have a glass (frosted) door (yes, we are mad to do this in South Africa) .. but it's holding up rather well. Entrance hall also has a big skylight (white/opal I guess - not transparent).

The amount of water, milk, vomit, etc my kids have targeted the floor with, it has held up. Nothing has even shown a hint of lifting/peeling. I really would like to know who did that work because they were definitely top notch.
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All my doors are glass, even the walls. It is what it is. Also, no way in hell I am fscking up the look of my house with burglar bars and gates and ****.
 
W@P said:
All my doors are glass, even the walls. It is what it is. Also, no way in hell I am fscking up the look of my house with burglar bars and gates and ****.
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I don't have your level of bravery in this country.
 
At the beginning of my project I was sold on glue down vinyl. So I went out and bought about 100sqm worth for install in the passages.

Sadly I lost the battle and we now have laminate in those spaces.

So I now sit with almost R20k worth of vinyl in my garage. Inzpyra Burwell, currently at R215/sqm @ evaluation, but I paid less since this was almost 2 years ago. Colour was targeted to give a McGeeish vibe to do h space when paired with white walls.

If anyone's keen I need space in the garage.
 
maumau said:
Thanks for the info.

Does the stick on vinyl in your living area get a lot of sun?
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For what it's worth, we went shopping for flooring today and the consultant at the flooring shop did explicitly warn us regarding direct sunlight on vinyl, since we would have 3 bedrooms all getting direct sunlight.. apparently the vinyl will fade and does not fade to something like a white colour, goes pink or green depending on the brand..

Am now considering v groove laminate with wax seal.. this is supposed to be a good quality laminate that won't fade like what we have seen in some houses and the v groove should prevent the edges of the panels wearing against each other and causing gaps..
 
Thank you for confirming what others have said.

With so much confusion, I MIGHT even install tiles, which I intended to avoid.
 
maumau said:
Thank you for confirming what others have said.

With so much confusion, I MIGHT even install tiles, which I intended to avoid.
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Tiles are ok, I hate the laminate I have in my rooms. You get moerse nice designs and colors etc but ja, I don't know. Won't go laminate again.

Tiles, get the biggest you can afford. The bigger the better.
 
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