The Home Improvements Thread (3)

You only need something like the first one, if you don't mind touch sensitive buttons (I personally hate it).

I wouldn't recommend that other basic switch for lights as you're putting a point of failure in between your switch and the light. If the smart switch is off (or broken) then your light switch will do nothing. For this I would recommend a proper relay like the Shelly ones: https://shellysa.co.za/products/relays/shelly-plus-1pm/ and then pair it with a bell/momentary press type switch (e.g. https://www.glolighting.co.za/major...GW5I7IM3wyNaUMr1d3_hV1vZgrJ_9lT8aAtnzEALw_wcB)
I don't mind the touch sensitive buttons, but I haven't used it so much, so it could be that I don't know that much. I'd like to get a few for the house to test, so perhaps I should just do that and see for myself
 
You only need something like the first one, if you don't mind touch sensitive buttons (I personally hate it).

I wouldn't recommend that other basic switch for lights as you're putting a point of failure in between your switch and the light. If the smart switch is off (or broken) then your light switch will do nothing. For this I would recommend a proper relay like the Shelly ones: https://shellysa.co.za/products/relays/shelly-plus-1pm/ and then pair it with a bell/momentary press type switch (e.g. https://www.glolighting.co.za/major...GW5I7IM3wyNaUMr1d3_hV1vZgrJ_9lT8aAtnzEALw_wcB)

aaah ok if you buy the 2nd one it needs to go into the wall or ceiling and will still work with swittches ?

im guessing you cant cos if the switch is off and the wifi connector is on then it wont work right

so ideally next questions who is the most reasonable people who keep wifi switches for lights

cause i want to add few so that when im out i can switch the lights on
 
aaah ok if you buy the 2nd one it needs to go into the wall or ceiling and will still work with swittches ?

im guessing you cant cos if the switch is off and the wifi connector is on then it wont work right

so ideally next questions who is the most reasonable people who keep wifi switches for lights

cause i want to add few so that when im out i can switch the lights on
One thing about those soft touch buttons. Maybe only buy 1 to start, to first see if it will work for you. The issue these usually have in SA with our brick walls, is these do not always sit flush with the wall and sometimes they dont cover the entire hole in the wall etc.

For me, I decided to go with the Veti 1 modular switches, using the bell press switches which do not have a on/off state but toggle the state. They look like normal non-smart switches to visitors but you have full control from your phone when paired with something like a sonoff mini or shelly device that sits inside. Does need a neutral at the switch box though. Something you should see if you have or not. Maybe you dont and I missed that part.
 
One thing about those soft touch buttons. Maybe only buy 1 to start, to first see if it will work for you. The issue these usually have in SA with our brick walls, is these do not always sit flush with the wall and sometimes they dont cover the entire hole in the wall etc.

For me, I decided to go with the Veti 1 modular switches, using the bell press switches which do not have a on/off state but toggle the state. They look like normal non-smart switches to visitors but you have full control from your phone when paired with something like a sonoff mini or shelly device that sits inside. Does need a neutral at the switch box though. Something you should see if you have or not. Maybe you dont and I missed that part.
agreed with this. got one sonoff loved it pulled neutrals for all switches and did the whole house best decision ever couldnt be happier! with automation and the ability to to on light switches based on sunset and sunrise we have lights going on 30-45 min before sunrise so when we wake up our kitchen for example is lit. our library/tv lamps switch on and provide ambient light before sunset and I push one button to switch all off when in bed. the outside lights remaining on.

options are endless.
 
agreed with this. got one sonoff loved it pulled neutrals for all switches and did the whole house best decision ever couldnt be happier! with automation and the ability to to on light switches based on sunset and sunrise we have lights going on 30-45 min before sunrise so when we wake up our kitchen for example is lit. our library/tv lamps switch on and provide ambient light before sunset and I push one button to switch all off when in bed. the outside lights remaining on.

options are endless.
How hard is it to pull neutrals to your switches?
I know jack sh*t about electricity, so please excuse my lack of knowledge
 
It's very doable diy
It's definitely not something I would DIY in my situation (thankfully my house has its neutrals pulled in already).

It would be a monumental PITA to do it where you don't have access to the ceiling space, like many flat roof houses and would you would likely be cutting open a lot of holes in the ceilings.
 
It's definitely not something I would DIY in my situation (thankfully my house has its neutrals pulled in already).

It would be a monumental PITA to do it where you don't have access to the ceiling space, like many flat roof houses and would you would likely be cutting open a lot of holes in the ceilings.
You speaking to someone who has done it at a previous house, without getting into the roof/ceiling at all :P
 
Happy to do for a price :p
I've got a bunch of old transformer-style spots that I want to change out for LED based GU10s inside an inaccessible ceiling. It will involve having to make some access holes and I've just been putting it off as it's going to be annoying.
 
I've got a bunch of old transformer-style spots that I want to change out for LED based GU10s inside an inaccessible ceiling. It will involve having to make some access holes and I've just been putting it off as it's going to be annoying.
One gets these rods, almost like plumbing rods but more flexible, which one uses for roofs like yours to run cables. Endoscope is helpful as well.
 
Hijack: Has anyone bought from Twin Tools in Sandton? I'm interested in this drill but the price is almost R1k cheaper than elsewhere. If it's too good to be true, then... is playing on my mind.

 
Hijack: Has anyone bought from Twin Tools in Sandton? I'm interested in this drill but the price is almost R1k cheaper than elsewhere. If it's too good to be true, then... is playing on my mind.

link to their FB page off their own site tread very very carefully

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Thanks a million.
As part of my research, I will check what her/his 22 friends look like...?
Don't even waste your time. That profile photo is enough to know it looks and smells like a scam.

It looks exactly like scam I often see in the 3d printing world. If you are curious. I am not against females or other races in this case, the photo just look exactly like other scammer profiles I have seen too many off.
 
Hijack: Has anyone bought from Twin Tools in Sandton? I'm interested in this drill but the price is almost R1k cheaper than elsewhere. If it's too good to be true, then... is playing on my mind.

Their address is listed as the same address as this place:


They have some pics there and they include some tools etc..

Perhaps one of the JHB guys can confirm the existence of their physical store in the Gantry lifestyle centre in Sandton..
 
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