The Honda Civic Type R Thread

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Civic Type R arrives in U.S. tomorrow as Honda’s latest with Apple’s CarPlay

After previously announcing that the Civic Type R would make its U.S. debut this spring, Honda today confirmed that the vehicle, its latest arriving with Apple’s CarPlay stock, will go on sale tomorrow.

The all-new 2017 Honda Civic Type R – the ultimate performance variant of America’s best-selling car1 and the first-ever Type R-badged Honda sold in the U.S. – goes on sale starting tomorrow… The most powerful production Honda ever sold in America, the track-ready 2017 Civic Type R embodies Honda’s racing spirit, making 306 horsepower (SAE net) at 6,500 rpm and 295 lb.-ft. of torque (SAE net) from 2,500-4500 rpm from its 2.0-liter DOHC direct-injected and turbocharged i-VTEC engine.

Apple’s CarPlay features come via the Type R’s 7-inch Display Audio touchscreen that includes integrated HVAC controls and Android Auto support. The Touring trim that becomes available tomorrow will also pack in other tech including a 540-watt 12-speaker stereo, Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System with Voice Recognition and Honda HD Digital Traffic, and a 7-inch Driver Information Interface that can display customizable performance stats like throttle and brake application, turbocharger boost pressure, lap time, shift lights, and more.

You’ll notice that Honda has skinned the software on its displays to match the red interior accents of the vehicle (the images of the interior above show the EU model which Honda says could vary slightly from the US version, but Honda confirmed it will indeed keep the red theme for the US model). The exterior shot below released by Honda today does show the U.S. model:

The Type-R with full-equipped Touring trim will be available starting tomorrow for $33,900.

https://9to5mac.com/2017/06/14/honda-civic-type-r-us-apple-carplay-availability-pricing/
 
2018 Honda Civic Type R v 2017 Ford Focus RS: World's First Twin Test - Motor1 UK

[video=youtube;Ra2J8q8ahPg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra2J8q8ahPg[/video]
 
Dealers Are Charging Way Over MSRP For The 2018 Honda Civic Type R

If you thought the $33,900 base price for the 2018 Honda Civic Type R was a bit steep for a front-wheel drive hot hatch, you ain’t seen nothing yet. That’s because some dealers aren’t going to let the limited-production Hondas go for anything less than $15,000 over MSRP. And I spoke with one dealer who’s charging an absurd $30,000 over sticker.

That’s almost a 90 percent markup, which is absolutely bonkers for any car. And don’t think prospective customers haven’t noticed: the car went on sale Wednesday and there’s already an entire thread on the CivicX forum called “Honda Civic Type-R Over sticker dealer naughty list [sic],” which includes a spreadsheet filled with dozens of dealerships and their respective markups.

I called up a few of the dealers on the spreadsheet (they’re mostly on the west coast) to confirm the heinously high prices. Kenny at Elk Grove Honda told me his dealership is charging folks $5,000 to get on a waiting list for the Civic Type R, and once a vehicle comes in, customers will pay $15,000 over MSRP.

I asked Kenny if this $15,000 markup would go down over time, and he said no—if anything, prices could go up. He told me: “We’ve been getting requests for this car for over year... [customers] know what it’s going to do and what it’s going to be.”

He went on, saying “There’s only 6,000 being made in the next two years,” and that “True enthusiasts will pay every penny to get this car.” (To clarify, only 6,000 Type Rs will be sold stateside.)

Then I called Honda Cars of Corona, and spoke with Omar. He told me he’s charging an incredible $30,000 markup. That means that, with the $700 destination charge, a 2018 Honda Civic Type R could cost nearly $65,000. He then told me he doesn’t anticipate that markup going down because of the low volumes, and the fact that the first car sold for $200,000 (it’s worth noting that the bid was for charity).

I called up a number of other dealerships, who told me similar stories. Walnut Creek Honda—which the spreadsheet shows is charging $5,000 over MSRP—said it doesn’t have any Civic Type Rs available yet, so it doesn’t know exact pricing. But what the gentleman on the phone did say was that the dealer only anticipates one or two Type Rs this year, and with the high demand, there’s “no doubt” there will be a markup. How much of a markup is yet to be determined, but the guy told me that typical markups for these cars were in the $5,000 to $10,000 range.

Take a look at all the dealerships on CivicX’s spreadsheet that allegedly have markups in the $10,000 to $20,000 range—it’s a long list. Looks like folks looking to pick up a 2018 Civic Type R might have a hell of a time finding one for anywhere near MSRP. They’re just going to have to decide if it’s really worth it.

http://jalopnik.com/dealers-are-charging-way-over-msrp-for-the-2018-honda-c-1796181591
 
Here's How Much Power The Honda Civic Type R Makes On The Dyno

There have been a ton of numbers flying around the 2017 Honda Civic Type R lately—its specs and power ratings compared to other sport compacts in the market, its crazy-high dealership prices doubling MSRP and the like. But if you want some real numbers, here’s the power the Type R makes on the dyno.

The Dyno Center in Puerto Rico tested out a Type R recently, and the numbers are more than impressive: The company said in a Facebook post that the car made 295 wheel horsepower, which, compared to its advertised engine HP, is incredibly high. Here’s a six-second clip of the car on the dyno before we break down what that number means:

The wild thing is how close that wheel-HP number is to the advertised 306 HP, which can be rare.

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Wheel HP differs from engine HP—which is often the number you see listed by manufacturers when you buy a car—in that engine HP is higher. That’s because engine HP doesn’t take into account all of the other features of a car that need power to run, or the power losses that occur from the engine to the wheels.

The measurement for wheel HP takes into account the things that reduce energy from the quoted engine HP as power travels from a car’s engine to the wheels, making it a much more accurate measurement of how much power the car is laying down on the road.

Two-wheel drive cars, like the front-wheel-drive Type R, tend to lose 10 to 15 percent of engine HP on the way to the wheels, whereas the loss is often 20 to 25 percent in all-wheel-drive cars. If that all sounded like gibberish, here’s a handy YouTube explainer from Engineering Explained.

Make your own conclusions about the two Type R numbers, but either way, the car’s advertised HP is super close to the wheel HP measured in this dyno test. No matter how the numbers got there, that’s something to appreciate.

http://jalopnik.com/heres-how-much-power-the-honda-civic-type-r-makes-on-th-1796205146
 
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