The Huawei E5186 LTE-A discussion thread

[Speedster]

I borrowed a Windows machine and got the Toolbox (v0.9) working. According to that I'm on LTE-A / B3+B7 which is 1800Mhz and 2600Mhz. Apparently 2300Mhz is band 40. There's an option to set network band, but it doesn't have an option for 40? The options are the following:
Automatic
2100 Mhz / B1
1800 Mhz / B3
2600 Mhz / B7
900 Mhz / B8
800 Mhz / B20
LTE-A / B3+B7
LTE-A / B3+B20
LTE-A / B7+B20

 

[Speedster]

I borrowed a Windows machine and got the Toolbox (v0.9) working. According to that I'm on LTE-A / B3+B7 which is 1800Mhz and 2600Mhz. Apparently 2300Mhz is band 40. There's an option to set network band, but it doesn't have an option for 40? The options are the following:
Automatic
2100 Mhz / B1
1800 Mhz / B3
2600 Mhz / B7
900 Mhz / B8
800 Mhz / B20
LTE-A / B3+B7
LTE-A / B3+B20
LTE-A / B7+B20

This page is a winner!! http://www.i-kno.com/how-connect-huawei-b315s-2300mhz-band

 

[sajunky]

I borrowed a Windows machine and got the Toolbox (v0.9) working. According to that I'm on LTE-A / B3+B7 which is 1800Mhz and 2600Mhz. Apparently 2300Mhz is band 40. There's an option to set network band, but it doesn't have an option for 40? The options are the following:
Automatic
2100 Mhz / B1
1800 Mhz / B3
2600 Mhz / B7
900 Mhz / B8
800 Mhz / B20
LTE-A / B3+B7
LTE-A / B3+B20
LTE-A / B7+B20

I wrote in my OP that you should not play with frequency dropbox list on the main tab. It is only valid for E5186s-22 model which is not yours. If you do it, you also can't revert to 'Auto', as this settings is also wrong for your model. The command will return with error (see on the logs tab). So, before you learn how to do it in Toolbox, the only way to get back to defaults is by hardware reset.

For the list of supported frequency bands by your device please post here output of the command:
/api/net/net-mode-list

 

[Speedster]

I wrote in my OP that you should not play with frequency dropbox list on the main tab. It is only valid for E5186s-22 model which is not yours. If you do it, you also can't revert to 'Auto', as this settings is also wrong for your model. The command will return with error (see on the logs tab). So, before you learn how to do it in Toolbox, the only way to get back to defaults is by hardware reset.

For the list of supported frequency bands by your device please post here output of the command:
/api/net/net-mode-list

00 01 02 03 GSM900/GSM1800/WCDMA BCVIII/WCDMA BCI 2000000400380 LTE BC3/LTE BC7/LTE BC28/LTE BC40 8008000044 All bands 7ffffffffffffff

On another note, where is the OP you're referring to (Azumith is OP on this thread)?

 

[sajunky]

00 01 02 03 GSM900/GSM1800/WCDMA BCVIII/WCDMA BCI 2000000400380 LTE BC3/LTE BC7/LTE BC28/LTE BC40 8008000044 All bands 7ffffffffffffff

On another note, where is the OP you're referring to (Azumith is OP on this thread)?

You can set possible LTE bands on your router and any combination of those:
0000000000000004 band 3
0000000000000040 band 7
0000000008000000 band 28
0000008000000000 band 40

Other settings will return error. Leading zeros can be omited.

To return to the default "All bands" use sum of all:
0000008008000044 sum of all, or
7ffffffffffffff special value for most of Huawei devices

BTW, What do you understand when I say "My OP" when we are talking about using E5186 Toolbox?

 

[Speedster]

You can set possible LTE bands on your router and any combination of those:
0000000000000004 band 3
0000000000000040 band 7
0000000008000000 band 28
0000008000000000 band 40

Other settings will return error. Leading zeros can be omited.

To return to the default "All bands" use sum of all:
0000008008000044 sum of all, or
7ffffffffffffff special value for most of Huawei devices

BTW, What do you understand when I say "My OP" when we are talking about using E5186 Toolbox?

Am I correct that only band 40 will potentially give LTE-A speeds?

 

[Speedster]

BTW, What do you understand when I say "My OP" when we are talking about using E5186 Toolbox?

OP is short for original poster.

In online discussion forums, OP is short for original poster -- the person who started a discussion thread. Within the forum thread others may direct comments specifically to the original poster using the OP abbreviation. The original poster may also include this abbreviation in subsequent posts he or she contributes.

Source

 

[sajunky]

Am I correct that only band 40 will potentially give LTE-A speeds?

Already answered twice.

It looks strange, so I must clarify. This model is not a 'super' model (as claimed on the first page), as it only support intra band CA (carrier aggregation) TDD 2300MHz (band 40), but not in FDD 1800MHz nor any other way (between FDD and TDD bands) as the model E5186-22a do.

It means that you must be under TDD 2300MHz LTE-A coverage to get faster speeds to the B315s.

and

Actually it is LTE-A router, but only in the band TDD 2300MHz.

You didn't answer my question:
What do you understand when I say "My OP" when we are talking about using E5186 Toolbox?

 

[Speedster]

Already answered twice.

and


You didn't answer my question:
What do you understand when I say "My OP" when we are talking about using E5186 Toolbox?

Thanks. And I dedicated a whole post to answering your question.

 

[sajunky]

Thanks. And I dedicated a whole post to answering your question.

Quoting $#itpedia is not answering my question.

I spent lot of time answering your various questions, maybe I deserve to get answer for this.

 

[Speedster]

Quoting $#itpedia is not answering my question.

I spent lot of time answering your various questions, maybe I deserve to get answer for this.

I understand the original post in the thread.

 

[sajunky]

I understand the original post in the thread.

For now it is clear that there is no "My original post" in this thread, so maybe I refered to a thread with "My original post", right? Think, think...

 

[Speedster]

For now it is clear that there is no "My original post" in this thread, so maybe I refered to a thread with "My original post", right? Think, think...

this is the most senseless argument I've been in all year. I misunderstood you, asked what you were referring to and now you're on some pluck about it...

 

[sajunky]

this is the most senseless argument I've been in all year. I misunderstood you, asked what you were referring to and now you're on some pluck about it...

Irrelevant whether I am making fun or not. Maybe I am just tired repeating the same answers, consider this.

Important question: Did you finally find out which thread I was refering to? I don't get it from your posts. If it is unclear indeed, maybe I should fix it for benefit of others.

 

[CUDlybunny]

Hi guys, just got hold of a E5186s-61a.

How do you know if its utilising carrier aggregation? Are the leds a different colour for lte vs lte-a?

 

[cavedog]

Got a second hand router today and guess what peeps there is a reason why Telkom killed the sales of this routers.

So it supports Inter Band contiguous on band 2300MHz (aka band 40) but Telkom is running LTE-A in 2300MHz as intra band non contiguous so guess what.

The Huawei E5186s-61a does not support LTE-A on Telkom and that is why they killed it in favor of the B618s-65d.


So a very simple explanation for those that doe not know what contiguous and non-contiguous means.

Think of the 2300MHz LTE band as a highway. You have 5 lanes. We know that for LTE-A you need carrier aggregation so you would need to drive on 2 or more lanes at the same time. Each lane is 1 carrier.

So Now if you have a inter band contiguous it means you are driving or combining 2 or more lanes next to each other. If you have inter band non-contiguous it means you are driving on 2 or more lanes but they are not next to each other so it might be second from the left and far right lane as long as they are not next to each other it non-contiguous


This is where most networks get it wrong including Rain with their B618 and Telkom with the E5186s-61a.


So yeah I basically lost R800 on a router that is performing exactly like my B315. Looks like I would just have to settle for the B618s-65d from Telkom for R2500

 

[sajunky]

Thank you for a post. How did you get that Telkom do not use contiguous bands in 2300MHz? It slightly more efficient with contiguous band aggregation and present less challenges to the radio receivers.

Got a second hand router today and guess what peeps there is a reason why Telkom killed the sales of this routers.

So it supports Inter Band contiguous on band 2300MHz (aka band 40) but Telkom is running LTE-A in 2300MHz as intra band non contiguous so guess what.

The Huawei E5186s-61a does not support LTE-A on Telkom and that is why they killed it in favor of the B618s-65d.

 

[paap]

Got a second hand router today and guess what peeps there is a reason why Telkom killed the sales of this routers.

So it supports Inter Band contiguous on band 2300MHz (aka band 40) but Telkom is running LTE-A in 2300MHz as intra band non contiguous so guess what.

The Huawei E5186s-61a does not support LTE-A on Telkom and that is why they killed it in favor of the B618s-65d.


So a very simple explanation for those that doe not know what contiguous and non-contiguous means.

Think of the 2300MHz LTE band as a highway. You have 5 lanes. We know that for LTE-A you need carrier aggregation so you would need to drive on 2 or more lanes at the same time. Each lane is 1 carrier.

So Now if you have a inter band contiguous it means you are driving or combining 2 or more lanes next to each other. If you have inter band non-contiguous it means you are driving on 2 or more lanes but they are not next to each other so it might be second from the left and far right lane as long as they are not next to each other it non-contiguous


This is where most networks get it wrong including Rain with their B618 and Telkom with the E5186s-61a.


So yeah I basically lost R800 on a router that is performing exactly like my B315. Looks like I would just have to settle for the B618s-65d from Telkom for R2500

I thought the 65d is priced at R2799. And thanks for the info on e5186.

 

[cavedog]

Thank you for a post. How did you get that Telkom do not use contiguous bands in 2300MHz? It slightly more efficient with contiguous band aggregation and present less challenges to the radio receivers.

Very nice from samsung service mode on my s8.

You can look at the frequency here there is a 20MHz block between the the two.

 

[Mr Sir]

Got a second hand router today and guess what peeps there is a reason why Telkom killed the sales of this routers.

So it supports Inter Band contiguous on band 2300MHz (aka band 40) but Telkom is running LTE-A in 2300MHz as intra band non contiguous so guess what.

The Huawei E5186s-61a does not support LTE-A on Telkom and that is why they killed it in favor of the B618s-65d.


So a very simple explanation for those that doe not know what contiguous and non-contiguous means.

Think of the 2300MHz LTE band as a highway. You have 5 lanes. We know that for LTE-A you need carrier aggregation so you would need to drive on 2 or more lanes at the same time. Each lane is 1 carrier.

So Now if you have a inter band contiguous it means you are driving or combining 2 or more lanes next to each other. If you have inter band non-contiguous it means you are driving on 2 or more lanes but they are not next to each other so it might be second from the left and far right lane as long as they are not next to each other it non-contiguous


This is where most networks get it wrong including Rain with their B618 and Telkom with the E5186s-61a.


So yeah I basically lost R800 on a router that is performing exactly like my B315. Looks like I would just have to settle for the B618s-65d from Telkom for R2500

[MENTION=258937]TelkomZA[/MENTION] So if i'm using this router on a telkom LTE-A contract then i'm paying for LTE-A, but not getting it? And everyone who received this router with a LTE-A contract is being ripped off by Telkom?