The Linux versus Microsoft war is over

[The_Unbeliever]

it is not over till it's over - the terminator



windows will have its place - for gaming etc.
linux will have its place - for servers etc.

In my experience windows is too fragile to be used in hostile enviroments as it is susceptible to viruses etc. Linux, however, can be used in hostile environments without fear of being broken.

So each have their place - still.

But the current crop of malware etc will force Windows to someplace else.

 

[LabAnimal]

It's not something I sucked out of my thumb, ignorance is bliss. How many operating systems have you actually used on a regular basis?

I don't doubt that you know what you're talking about! This simple fact remains, where Linux fails, windows came through 110% every single time for me! When Linux starts working as effortlessly as windows does from a fresh install, then I'll gladly make space for a Linux installation! Until then... No thanks!

 

[LabAnimal]

windows will have its place - for gaming etc.
linux will have its place - for servers etc.

Agreed!

 

[sidai]

Lol just a real pity it looks sh*t compared to Windows 7. IE 9 mobile outperforms Android and Iphone. Windows 8 on tablets. IE 10 with better touch support. The writer of the article is probably Osama Bin Laden. Windows won ages ago. Cloud computing will work in first world countries but not here where we are stuck with Hellkom.

Just a pity IE9 is the SLOWEST on HTML5 > html5test.com
IE9 is the one of the most insecure browsers.
IE9 stole chrome's look.
Don't care who wins.

PS. You obviously don't know what you are talking about, because you haven't seen Ubuntu/Linux running compiz. I'm doing amazing graphical things with my Ubuntu 10.10 Desktop and a 64MB onboard gfx card (Work Computer). Things you only can dream of.
As for the M$ on tablets (LOL) good luck with your whopping 5 free apps.

 

[TelkomUseless]

For the last 15 years I heard Linux is going to be big and overtake MS... yadadadadadadada...

And I'm still waiting...

 

[devilfp]

Last 6 notebooks I bought for my staff I had a choice - and I chose W7.

Not everybody is cleaver enough or have the willpower to try new better things.

A PC\notebook with Windows on will be reloaded average every 1.5 years, Linux? Well of all the Linux machines that I've installed, NEVER!

 

[nihilist]

Actually sick of the debates of Win/Mac/Lin/BSD debates.

It's a case of the right tool for the job.

At home, Win7 x64 for gaming, music production = awesome, and I love Windows as a desktop OS.

Also at home, a Linux fileserver, my setup out performed all my expectations on what I can do with an old box and a bunch of huge disks.

Linux is gaining on the desktop front, I think it'll take time until it reaches a point where Joe Average can not only install it but also maintain it, if you look at the strides being made by Ubuntu, Fedora and others on the desktop front.. Linux is gaining rapidly.

Don't have to mention how popular Android is beocming..

Personally though, I think "My OS" would be NT4 or Win2k's UI over a Linux of Unix kernel, and let it run all my games and audio needs and I'd never look back.

Use what works for you

 

[grim]

it is not over till it's over - the terminator



windows will have its place - for gaming etc.
linux will have its place - for servers etc.

In my experience windows is too fragile to be used in hostile enviroments as it is susceptible to viruses etc. Linux, however, can be used in hostile environments without fear of being broken.

So each have their place - still.

But the current crop of malware etc will force Windows to someplace else.

An OS is only as secure as the user using it. Linux as Windows is just as easy to hack as it's been setup.

For one Linux is open source, which means that anyone can see the source and identify flaws in it that can be used to hack into it, the opposite is also true that the user that identifies the flaw can fix it and provide the fix to the community it just depends on the user that identifies the flaw.

Also a lot of malware coming out today is designed to have some financial gain for the creators, why would you as a malware creator target 1% of PC's by writing malware for Linux when you can target 90% by going after Windows?

It's a myth that Linux is more secure than Windows and doesn't need AV or any other software to protect it, there's plenty of malware out there targeted at Linux systems.

I'm not bashing Linux, it does have it's uses, just stating that it can be used without fear of being broken is utter BS.

 

[MadMailMan]

Have you met my puppy Cujo?

What kind of fecktard calls M$ a puppy? More importantly is what plannet does he come from. I HATE M$. Not beccause of their success but more because the can steer the computing world almost single handedly. That my friends is the scary part.

 

[nihilist]

An OS is only as secure as the user using it. Linux as Windows is just as easy to hack as it's been setup.

For one Linux is open source, which means that anyone can see the source and identify flaws in it that can be used to hack into it, the opposite is also true that the user that identifies the flaw can fix it and provide the fix to the community it just depends on the user that identifies the flaw.

Also a lot of malware coming out today is designed to have some financial gain for the creators, why would you as a malware creator target 1% of PC's by writing malware for Linux when you can target 90% by going after Windows?

It's a myth that Linux is more secure than Windows and doesn't need AV or any other software to protect it, there's plenty of malware out there targeted at Linux systems.

I'm not bashing Linux, it does have it's uses, just stating that it can be used without fear of being broken is utter BS.

Got any proof to back up your statements?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Viruses

Yes, there are viruses and malware for Linux, but it's very, very, very small when compared to Windows. This obviously has to do with market share, granted more malware will be written for the more popular platforms, however, the way Linux and it's variants have been designed prevents most kinds of attacks.

An example of this is the fact that a standard user cannot change or delete any files outside of their Home profile, it's only until Windows XP onwards that Microsoft started taking user access seriously thanks to NTFS permissions and other technologies.

For one Linux is open source, which means that anyone can see the source and identify flaws in it that can be used to hack into it, the opposite is also true that the user that identifies the flaw can fix it and provide the fix to the community it just depends on the user that identifies the flaw.


Sure, like Windows, being closed source has made it hard for people to attack it.

It's a myth that Linux is more secure than Windows and doesn't need AV or any other software to protect it, there's plenty of malware out there targeted at Linux systems.


Again, I have an issue with "plenty".

SAUCE PLEASE!

And now, I'm not some frakking wimpy Linux zealot-apologist, I just found your post a bit uneducated, but prove me wrong.

 

[Joe Average]

Correction the JSE (like the London stock exchange did) is moving to the millennium exchange system which is based around linux and also uses Solaris and Oracle databases. The JSE currently runs on Windows servers and SQL...

SAP is used by pretty much all the big auditing firms nowadays as well, Deloitte's definitely use it, they moved over at the end of 2009.

I am referring to the BDA (Broker Direct Accounting) system at the JSE. They are migrating it to a new Windows Server and SQL based system bought from Canada, locally called MSS. Not their Trading system, I am aware that will run on Sun Solaris and Oracle - most Stock Brokers use 3rd party stock trading software, like HERMES from Peresys (purely Windows and SQL DB based) or GLTrader.

 

[n00berizer]

Things In My House That Run Some Unix Variant
- TV
- Media Center
- Router
- Modem
- NAS
- Phone
- PC
- Laptop
- GPS

Things In My House That Run Some Microsoft Product
- XBOX360

 

[garyc]

Look, Linux is good, but so is Windows. There are basically only three reasons why I still use XP - battery life, games and EndNote. There is a slight decrease in battery life with the Linux versions I've tested, but they're constantly improving.

DirectX is one of the major reasons why there are so little games available for Linux that the moment. Developers did just not see the need to create a version for less than 5% of the gaming market. Big thumbs up to companies like id Software who used OpenGL from the start and made it much easier to port their titles. As for EndNote (reference and citation manager) - tried using it in Wine to no avail.

Once those issues have been sorted out I will permanently give Windows the boot. Slowly moving over to Linux.

Issues like OS compatibility can be partially resolved by more modern OS agnostic software. A growing alternative to Endnote is the Zotero reference manager, which can also import your Endnote files. I have transported my reference collection between XP, W7 and numerous Linux installations without any issues.

The problem on Linux is that it does not interface with MS Office under Wine, only OpenOffice. This remains one of the main problems with inter-platform operability, a really decent office package that will work well on all of them.

 

[devilfp]

Things In My House That Run Some Unix Variant
- TV
- Media Center
- Router
- Modem
- NAS
- Phone
- PC
- Laptop
- GPS

Things In My House That Run Some Microsoft Product
- XBOX360

Yeap. Thats true. Most people doesn't even know that they've got unix\linux products.

 

[devilfp]

Got any proof to back up your statements?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Viruses

Yes, there are viruses and malware for Linux, but it's very, very, very small when compared to Windows. This obviously has to do with market share, granted more malware will be written for the more popular platforms, however, the way Linux and it's variants have been designed prevents most kinds of attacks.

An example of this is the fact that a standard user cannot change or delete any files outside of their Home profile, it's only until Windows XP onwards that Microsoft started taking user access seriously thanks to NTFS permissions and other technologies.

For one Linux is open source, which means that anyone can see the source and identify flaws in it that can be used to hack into it, the opposite is also true that the user that identifies the flaw can fix it and provide the fix to the community it just depends on the user that identifies the flaw.


Sure, like Windows, being closed source has made it hard for people to attack it.

It's a myth that Linux is more secure than Windows and doesn't need AV or any other software to protect it, there's plenty of malware out there targeted at Linux systems.


Again, I have an issue with "plenty".

SAUCE PLEASE!

And now, I'm not some frakking wimpy Linux zealot-apologist, I just found your post a bit uneducated, but prove me wrong.

Windows did try and 'copy' linux user permissions protection but they just made a mess of it. I mean who the hell doesn't switch the their UAC off firstly after a fresh Windows install? Linux has been in the security game way longer than Microsoft.

 

[nihilist]

Windows did try and 'copy' linux user permissions protection but they just made a mess of it. I mean who the hell doesn't switch the their UAC off firstly after a fresh Windows install? Linux has been in the security game way longer than Microsoft.

Exactly.

And speaking of user perms and profiles, I wish they'd ditch the registry, would be so much easier for reinstalling if I could just dump %userprofile% to a drive, reinstall and copy back and have ALL MY @%! SETTINGS restored.

 

[Other Pineapple Smurf]

Well some forumnite use to have the sig: "I don't care what runs on your PC, I only care what runs on mine!"

 

[BigAl-sa]

windows will have its place - for gaming etc.

I remember not very long ago when gamers said "serious games will never run under windows". Before directx, games still ran under msdos with memory expanders.

So windows can lose its place as a gaming platform too.

 

[Arthur]

If the war's over howcome people are still fighting? Sounds like a religious war to me ... jihad against the Evil Empire.

For heaven's sake, these are tools, not a blerry religion or fundamental philosophy of life. Use the ones that suit your requirements and pocket. And have you noticed that not everyone on earth has the same requirements, priorities and resources as you or your little patch of the planet? Extrapolating from your desktop/server to the cosmos is about as parochially-minded as one can get. I love Linux. I love Windows. I love MacOS. I love them all. But what I love most of all is that I still have a choice.

 

[superfly]

On the Linux games front, there are a number of indie games developers (like Wolfire) who support Windows, Linux and OS X. As Wolfire discovered, it actually works out better for them to support OS X and Linux: http://blog.wolfire.com/2008/12/why-you-should-support-mac-os-x-and-linux/

I also use WINE to play a number of my Windows games. For instance, Civilization 4 works out of the box in WINE. From what I've heard, some of the most recent games don't work in WINE, but a few do, and most of the older games do as well. I even use WINE for other apps like FL Studio.

Ps.S Ever heard of the Humble Indie Bundle? The requirements for being in one of those bundles is that the games have to work on those three platforms.