The Madeleine McCann Missing Thread

Do you think Madeleine McCann died in the family's holiday apartment?

  • Yes

    Votes: 116 60.7%

  • No

    Votes: 75 39.3%
  • Total voters
    191
waynegohl said:
i have started reading the links now and just wondered if they ever thought that maddy might have woken up and walked outside trying to find them or did they automatically assume she was abducted?
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Apparently from the beginning they were insistent that it was an abduction, and refused to consider anything else.

Very interesting reading all round; that "60 reasons" link is very interesting, but probably somewhat biased - I'd like to read something from the other camp refuting it, just to make sure I get a balanced view.

But at the moment I'm leaning towards the theory that she did die in the apartment; and that the parents were somehow involved. Either an accidental overdose of sleeping meds; some other kind of accident; deliberate murder (seems less likely to me); or, and this one seems most convincing to me, that they knew the kidnappers. I figure they were involved in something illegal - e.g. drugs - and pissed off their partners in crime and had been warned that something would happen (e.g. if they didn't come up with the drugs). Their crime partners then killed Maddy, and they tried to cover it up so that their illegal activities wouldn't be found out.

Of course I'm basing this all on 3rd or 4th hand accounts of what happened, so I could be completely off track.
 
Another possible drug related theory.

However it still begs the question - what happened to Maddie.

The problem I have though is that even Mafioso type gangsters draw the line at killing 4 year olds to settle a score. And there has never been a whiff of any link to drug gangs.

If they were aware of any threat I'm pretty sure they would have kept their children close.

I'm sticking with the abduction option - by someone known to the family or otherwise.

Mysterious in the extreme - did you know the flat they stayed in is owned by a Mccann - who is not related....
 
Has anyone come across whether the adjacent apartments were searched ?

It's a possibility that she was taken from her apartment to another nearby - and then removed when the heat was off. Yes, no ?
 
Crucial

IF maddie was deceased in the apartment HOW was her body hidden and disposed of without anybody noticing anything ??? ( looking at the timelines )

The only thing I can think of is that the "TAPAS Group" were / are somehow involved.

I really think that people have to start thinking outside the box now. ( and ALL parties need some serious background checking )

Medical doctors are also "human" / "monsters" and can also have strange tastes.

The level of high profile intereference ( British bigwigs ) has made me VERY suspicious.


MW
 
Unproven

GL! said:
Apparently, the guy who [-]solved[/-] the Gert van Rooyen missing girls case,
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Please can you point out the article where it CONFIRMS that this guy solved this case ??????

DID he point out the bodies ( unknown skeletons) found at the Umhloti "holiday" home

GL! said:
But nothing has come of it, for some reason.
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Because as far as have read this guy never solved anything that can be PROVEN

GL! said:
PS. the link/source of this i don't have at this point.
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Well better find it quick BEFORE making unproven statements


MW
 
hang on, as you guys have stated before, did they question the other adults involved or the 2 kiddies were the adjacent apartments searched?

the child could have been drugged or killed early in the evening as no one actually went into the room to touch her to see if she was "alive" and she was later passed out of the opened window to someone who disposed of the body maybe.
 
Hmmm. Read the 60 reasons link on Scribd and what interests me is the statements made by the Irishman Mr Martin Smith. He saw a man holding a young girl near the entrance to a pub by the beach then later when he saw TV coverage of Dr Mcann getting off the plane holding one of his twins he said he was sure it was the same man he saw carrying a young girl!
 
waynegohl said:
hang on, as you guys have stated before, did they question the other adults involved or the 2 kiddies were the adjacent apartments searched?

the child could have been drugged or killed early in the evening as no one actually went into the room to touch her to see if she was "alive" and she was later passed out of the opened window to someone who disposed of the body maybe.
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They did question everyone - I'm reading Amaral's The Truth Of the Lie right now (on scribd, don't have the link handy) and it reveals a lot of what went on in the investigation that was never reported to the british media, making it seem as though the local police weren't doing much when in fact they were.
 
MidnightWizard said:
Please can you point out the article where it CONFIRMS that this guy solved this case ??????

DID he point out the bodies ( unknown skeletons) found at the Umhloti "holiday" home



Because as far as have read this guy never solved anything that can be PROVEN



Well better find it quick BEFORE making unproven statements


MW
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Whatever dude :rolleyes:
 
Hobagoas said:
I am sure many of you have heard of the Natascha Kampusch story. The Austrian girl was abducted at age 10 and only managed to flee 8 years later. During that time many believed that her parents were involved in her abduction and for years those people were put through hell. Not only did they have to endure the agony of not knowing what happened to their daughter, but they had to live with others coming up with all sorts of heinous theories as to how they killed their daughter or had her abducted and then went on to cover it up etc. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

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There were many crucial differences in the Kampusch case.

Here is just one

Miss Kampusch's father. Mr Koch said he could not rule out that his estranged wife had known Priklopil, who killed himself shortly after his captive escaped. He also recalled how she had called police to report their daughter missing before checking if she was with him.
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This having something to do with being involved in drug dealing seems highly unlikely.

waynegohl said:
i have started reading the links now and just wondered if they ever thought that maddy might have woken up and walked outside trying to find them or did they automatically assume she was abducted?
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Is that necessarily surprising? The media would have us believe children are being abducted on every street corner. That if you let your child walk around the corner on their own they're at high risk of being abducted.
 
noxibox said:
This having something to do with being involved in drug dealing seems highly unlikely.


Is that necessarily surprising? The media would have us believe children are being abducted on every street corner. That if you let your child walk around the corner on their own they're at high risk of being abducted.
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not sure i follow but if you are trying to say that they would automatically assume abduction because of children going missing THEN WHY LEAVE THE APARTMENT UNLOCKED WITH 3 BABIES INSIDE WHILST YOU SUIP IT UP 100M AWAY FROM THEM?
 
if she had said something about maddy walking out then it would make them look bad as parents but saying she was abducted makes them the victim.
 
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