The Man United Thread

[dbecks]

Ronaldo was 100% onside....Period!

 

[SuPaStA]

Regardless of whether or not he was offside, you simply cannot wait until the team has completed celebrating the goal to decide that the player was offside. The decision should have been immediately when Ronaldo got the ball. Pathetic. Everyone says it's touch touch. Surely the players should get the benefit of the doubt in such millimetre decisions. Great through ball from Giggs. Great finish by Ronaldo. Poor linesman decision.

So its a poor linesman's decision because he got the correct decision??

Replays showed ronaldo was offisde, in the UK they even had a replay of the linesman while it happend who you could see mouthing back to the official that he knows its offside but he never saw if giggs touched the ball and to please confirm.

The offside was called exactly as it happend but he did the correct decision and confirmed with the ref before raising his flag.

Everyone on the UK commentry/half-time presentation applauded the fact they got the correct decision but trust the manchester supporters to say its wrong lol.

 

[mercurial]

Replay was indecisive. It was a touch and go decision and everyone will attest to that. It's hard to know for a fact if he was offside or not. The linesman stood still until way after the goal to decide that it was offside. The decision should have been made instantly. Everyone has been saying that as well. How you can not know if Giggs touched the ball? Giggs gave him a through ball. It was as clear as day... Apparently not to anti-Man United people.

 

[icyrus]

Replay was indecisive. It was a touch and go decision and everyone will attest to that. It's hard to know for a fact if he was offside or not. The linesman stood still until way after the goal to decide that it was offside. The decision should have been made instantly. Everyone has been saying that as well. How you can not know if Giggs touched the ball? Giggs gave him a through ball. It was as clear as day... Apparently not to anti-Man United people.

The laws of the game state that the attacker should be given the advantage if there is any doubt. In this case there was little doubt that is was onside after the flick, but even if there was doubt the attacker should have been given the advantage. The level of the officials at the moment is truly pathetic, especially when you consider that they are now professionals.

Regardless merc, you shouldn't argue with ..

 

[SuPaStA]

Replay was indecisive. It was a touch and go decision and everyone will attest to that. It's hard to know for a fact if he was offside or not. The linesman stood still until way after the goal to decide that it was offside. The decision should have been made instantly. Everyone has been saying that as well. How you can not know if Giggs touched the ball? Giggs gave him a through ball. It was as clear as day... Apparently not to anti-Man United people.

So the all the naitional broadcasters and all the UK papers are anti-man united? lol

Linesman stood still???

The damn replay showed he ran with the play of the ball and after it was confirmed over the radio it was offside he ran back to the spot and showed his flag.You again dont know what you talking about as over here they actually had a camera on the linesman while it happend.

 

[mercurial]

All the alleged UK commentators said so... ya sure And I suppose by that you mean the UK commentators that we heard know nothing about football hey? And all the local commentary here in SA also know nothing about football hey? Time to take the goggles off

 

[mercurial]

Ferguson said he was confused by Cristiano Ronaldo's belatedly disallowed goal in the emphatic win at Pride Park.

manchester United's Ryan Giggs and referee Alan Wiley
Giggs discusses the disallowed goal with referee Alan Wiley

Ronaldo raced clear to score but the assistant referee flagged offside after learning from the referee that Ryan Giggs had flicked the ball on.

"I got an explanation but I'm not sure whether it works," said United's boss.

"It should've been given straight away. Our keeper threw the ball so he was off [whether or not Giggs touched it]."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/7891742.stm

That Sir Alex Ferguson could get so agitated with officials for ruling out a goal when his team were leading 1-0 and then turning the screw in a fashion that suggested there was more to come was curious, even for those who admire the Scot for his constant pursuit of perfection. But the devil was in the detail.

Cristiano Ronaldo had just run on to a flick-on from Ryan Giggs and buried the ball past Stephen Bywater in the Derby goal; it was the moment Ferguson's masterplan had come to fruition and it was ruined by the assistant referee's late, late flag.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/feb/15/fa-cup-manchester-united-derby

Controversy erupted in the 37th minute with Ronaldo's disallowed goal. Foster threw the ball forward to Giggs, who flicked it on for

Ronaldo, who had only Bywater to beat. Ronaldo looked across at referee's assistant Paul Tierney, whose flag was not raised, before applying an assured finish into the net and turning to celebrate with his United team-mates.

But the celebrations were cut short when ref Alan Wiley disallowed the goal. The explanation given was that Tierney had not seen Giggs touch the ball and, once Wiley had confirmed the United midfielder had, raised his flag for offside.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...-1-victory-over-derby-county-115875-21126597/

Again, it doesn't matter whether or not Giggs touched the ball. It then should have been flagged offside immediately by the ref cos VDS would then have given the ball to Ronaldo. The linesman is an idiot.

Controversy raged five minutes later when United thought they had scored a second. Quick thinking from Foster resulted in his arrowed throw finding Giggs on the halfway line. The Welshman flicked the ball onto Ronaldo, who burst past the Derby defence - route one football at its finest.

Ronaldo looked across to find the linesman’s flag down, and calmly slotted his shot past the keeper and into the corner. But, amazingly, deep into the Red Devils’ celebrations, an offside flag did appear.

For the following minutes, United’s players and management berated the officials, bemused as to why the ‘goal’ had been disallowed at such a late stage. The offside decision was marginal, fourth official Rob Styles eventually explaining the delay was due to the linesman not being sure over whether or not Giggs had indeed made contact with the ball.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/780/fa-...-ease-past-derby-county-to-progress-in-fa-cup

The linesman clearly does not know how to rule. It does not matter whether or not Giggs touched it. If Ronaldo was offside, regardless of who passed him the ball, then the linesman should have flagged immediately.

 

[SuPaStA]

All the alleged UK commentators said so... ya sure And I suppose by that you mean the UK commentators that we heard know nothing about football hey? And all the local commentary here in SA also know nothing about football hey? Time to take the goggles off

Goggles??Your half-time presentation in SA consists of a guy sometimes wearing a Manchester top commenting on a manu game lol.Commentry in SA is pretty sh*t at best compared to the analysis given during the half-time in the UK.

Tell the BBC then to take off their goggles:

1712: OK. Apparently, the linesman was not sure whether Ryan Giggs had touched Ben Foster's throw on for Cristiano Ronaldo so he had to wait to check with the referee before confirming the offside decision. He was marginally offside so it was the right decision... eventually.

Also ....FFS LEARN THE OFFSIDE RULE!!! How can you comment on football and not know the simplest of football rules.

The linesman clearly does not know how to rule. It does not matter whether or not Giggs touched it. If Ronaldo was offside, regardless of who passed him the ball, then the linesman should have flagged immediately.

Giggs touching it and the fact it was a straight throwin from the keeper is the difference between offside and not.

 

[Genius.]

Missed the game so cannot comment. Linesman dont have to give a call absolutely immidiately. If the right decision was made, then what is the fuss about?

 

[Genius.]

The linesman clearly does not know how to rule. It does not matter whether or not Giggs touched it. If Ronaldo was offside, regardless of who passed him the ball, then the linesman should have flagged immediately.

Of course it matters!!!
LoL - you need to learn the offside rule as well.

Eish

 

[hj2k_x]

Cannot believe this is still a 'debate'.

The call was marginal. Advantage to the attacker if it is a close call. Linesman waited an age to make the decision, which was arguably incorrect with or without Giggs' flick.

Either way, 4-1 win. On to the quarters

 

[SuPaStA]

Cannot believe this is still a 'debate'.

The call was marginal. Advantage to the attacker if it is a close call. Linesman waited an age to make the decision, which was arguably incorrect with or without Giggs' flick.

Either way, 4-1 win. On to the quarters

How many times must this line be used "LEARN THE OFFSIDE RULE"

The flick was the difference between it being onside and off-side.

Pretty easy draw by the way, I think the only test for manchester will come in the semis.

 

[SuPaStA]

Ferguson must also be wearing goggles:



Ferguson

“Neverthless, Ronaldo was in an offside position. I have no complaints about the actual decision.

 

[hj2k_x]

Ferguson must also be wearing goggles:



Ferguson

Does that fabulous quote have a link?

 

[hj2k_x]

How many times must this line be used "LEARN THE OFFSIDE RULE"

The flick was the difference between it being onside and off-side.

Pretty easy draw by the way, I think the only test for manchester will come in the semis.

Either way the decision was marginal. The attacker is meant to get the advantage in that situation.

Shame

 

[SuPaStA]

He was Offisde, even the manchester manager thinks so.

Maybe everyone should get their offside advice by you, as the rules you watch the game by are completely different hahahahahah


Ferguson

“Neverthless, Ronaldo was in an offside position. I have no complaints about the actual decision.

 

[hj2k_x]

Shall I explain to you what a link is? And do you understand what 'the advantage is meant to go to the attacking team if the decision is a tight one'? I am not sure how else to put it.

 

[SuPaStA]

There is no "tight decision" he was in a offside position hence he got called on it.Even his manager is aware of this.

Here take the goggles off and read the below quote

Ferguson

“Neverthless, Ronaldo was in an offside position. I have no complaints about the actual decision.

 

[hj2k_x]

LOL.

As you would say, I think it is clear you have been 'owned' once again in this debate.

I'm outta here.

 

[SuPaStA]

owned? lol lol Please show me where im "owned"???

The manchester manager is saying his own player is offside, only you think he was on-side.
The one person who doesnt even understand the offside rule.

hahahahah (fck im having a good laugh)

Again just incase anyone missed it:


Ferguson (MANAGER OF MANCHESTER UNITED)

“Neverthless, Ronaldo was in an offside position. I have no complaints about the actual decision.