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The Middle East Conflict Thread
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adamr
Executive Member
lol i agree .... Do any of these people have friends beyond their cultural beliefs, race etc ... it really makes me sick ... totally ...
Do you accept that firing more rockets into Israel will result in more Israeli attacks?
There are no innocents in this war anymore. All sides are to blame.. and theyre sinking the rest of us in with their poo.
daveza
Honorary Master
You know, this thread will go on until someone becomes offensive and the mods shut it down.
New threads will open up and the same for and against will continue as it has for decades.
We will never agree on everything and if we have jewish or muslim members posting the chances of agreement are even less.
The best we can hope for is to offer our understanding and opinion.
We cannot continue to debate in an online forum as if it were a war to be won.
New threads will open up and the same for and against will continue as it has for decades.
We will never agree on everything and if we have jewish or muslim members posting the chances of agreement are even less.
The best we can hope for is to offer our understanding and opinion.
We cannot continue to debate in an online forum as if it were a war to be won.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
no i dont ... define radical Islam ... please ... you use words without understanding ...
Google it... I am not your High School history teacher....
http://www.google.co.za/search?q=ra...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
I am sorry for your ignorance... but you really should try and stay more informed on world affairs.
You make accusations without any factual basis.
The contradiction is in your brain I am sad to say... and what is worse... it looks like a terminal case
I did reply to that.. go back and read it. The situation is unbalanced at the moment because Israel is surrounded by ten nations that harbour radial terrorists who want nothing less than the total extermination of the Jewish people. Remove those crazies from the picture and then you might have a more balanced playing field.
Unfortunately there is no debating with crazies... as your continued (but flailing) effort at dialogue is increasingly demonstrating.
Answer me two questions (since I answered yours)...
1) How old are you?
2) Are you a Muslim?
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
lol i agree .... Do any of these people have friends beyond their cultural beliefs, race etc ... it really makes me sick ... totally ...
You have no idea who my friends are and where I have traveled in the world and what I have seen. Your presumption is what is sickening
... but your antisemitism does not surprise me.What I am still confused about is why you are still here and not fighting alongside your Shaheed friends in Gaza.
Or are you just not brave enough?
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
I disagree. I think there is a chance that those who hold to misinformed or biased beliefs might be given a realistic picture and might come to appreciate what is actually happening in the world around them instead of believing lies and propaganda that they have grown up with and been spoon-fed all their lives.
daveza
Honorary Master
Btw - perhaps the forum should ban all quotes from Wikipedia so we would all need to do more research...
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
The wall is a result of Palestinian attacks. They are using 1000's of rockets because their other suicide attack method is not effective anymore.
1 UP for the WALL.
The Palestinians are getting money, and were getting a lot from the EU. The EU discovered this wasn't going to the people and that has nearly dried up. Why are they spending what little they have on rockets and Kalashnikovs?? Answer me that. ....
The Hamas government was elected in a democratic way, but that's where it ended. It's now a paramilitary/terrorist group bent on warring with Israel and everyone who lives there. An Israeli was killed today by rocket. RIP.
It isn't as if the Palestinians are stopping, so let round two continue until one or the other decides they've had enough.
Well said! Finally someone who knows something about the truth of the situation.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
daveza
Honorary Master
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
I think it would be almost impossible for you to change your opinion.
I am glad that you see the truth is immutable.
Well done.
adamr
Executive Member
Google it... I am not your High School history teacher....
http://www.google.co.za/search?q=ra...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
I am sorry for your ignorance... but you really should try and stay more informed on world affairs.
You make accusations without any factual basis.
The contradiction is in your brain I am sad to say... and what is worse... it looks like a terminal case
I did reply to that.. go back and read it. The situation is unbalanced at the moment because Israel is surrounded by ten nations that harbour radial terrorists who want nothing less than the total extermination of the Jewish people. Remove those crazies from the picture and then you might have a more balanced playing field.
Unfortunately there is no debating with crazies... as your continued (but flailing) effort at dialogue is increasingly demonstrating.
Answer me two questions (since I answered yours)...
1) How old are you?
2) Are you a Muslim?
Islam is the following of the teachings in the Quran and now you use Radical Islam ... I dont get this Radical Islam, as you and the media so nicely throw these words out
you send me a google search of "radical islam" ... yes im stupid so explain it to me .... not a google search ... i want a definition, cause there is only one Islam ... no radical Islam ... in no way does Islam/the quran justify the killing of innocent people ...
so you born in 1968 then ... ok time you grew up dont you think ...
to find out how old i am is easy ... use your brains a little, you will get it...
yes i am Muslim, but have a good few Jewish friends ... i suppose you have no Muslim friends ... and guess what dude, we get along
...EDIT: Gary my issue is really from the start the murder of innocent people on either side ... a child is innocent no matter what warped view anyone might try and spin on it ... and my problem is you, Marine1 and Frankie justify such killings and murder ...
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marine1
Honorary Master
Problem is the middle east has a bearing on the rest of the world.
marine1
Honorary Master
+ 10000000000000000000000000000001) For the militant and radical Muslim factions to renounce Terror tactics and attacks on innocent people (suicide bombings, rocket attacks, etc.)
2) For them to acknowledge Israel's right to exist as a nation.
3) For them to elect a democratic, credible and capable government
4) For them to concentrate on building infrastructure in Gaza and the West Bank instead of using all their funds to buy weapons.
5) For the other Arab States to stop sponsoring Hamas and other Radical organizations.
6) For them to go to the table with Israel and thrash this thing out with meaningful and sincere dialogue.
7) For the Imams and Muslim clerics to stop preaching Jihad against the West.
8) For Israel to respond in kind and withdraw from the occupied areas and help to re-settle the Palestinian people who want to get on with their lives.
Simple.
adamr
Executive Member
you believe in a term called "Radical Islam" ... lol!!!! ...
You have no idea who my friends are and where I have traveled in the world and what I have seen. Your presumption is what is sickening
What I am still confused about is why you are still here and not fighting alongside your Shaheed friends in Gaza.
Thats extremely rich Gary. Israel have stripped the palestinans of most of their rights.
Don't you dare for one moment ask why nobody is fighting with the Palestinans we do not defend the radical jihadists, we fight for the innocents that are exploited every day (even more in the last few).
Why don't you get off your high horse and smell the manure ur shovelling Israel has and always will be wrondg for taking the Palestinan lands 'occupied territories').
Those that argue this aren't terrorist they are realists. but i guess as someone said this thread will continue forever or till closed by a mod.
Israel should back off the and leave the occupied territories, yes there are angry Palestinans as there are angry Africans in South africa. If you oppress people what do you expect flowers, Please.
If the Palestinans were treated the same as the jews (yeah right like that will ever happen) maybe then you qwould have an argument and i will probably agree with you that the Palestinans are wrong.
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Yeah sure Gary and marine its easy.
treat the Palestinans with dignity and respect, quit ussurping their land maybe then people can demand things from them.
No opressed nation will ever listen to demands,as far as they are concerned Israel has taken too much from them already start giving back.
But if that happened hell would freeze over because israel would have to accept the fact they are wrong.
Don't forget Israel has taken Palestinian land not the other way around. Take a look at the link my signature.
marine1
Honorary Master
You seem to be getting sick very oftenlol i agree .... Do any of these people have friends beyond their cultural beliefs, race etc ... it really makes me sick ... totally ...
The truth really does hurt.How can he change his opinion on facts? Why should he try and change his opinion on the truth of the situation?I think it would be almost impossible for you to change your opinion.
marine1
Honorary Master
I seriously doubt that. Any self respecting Jew would disagree with your opinion on the situation there. Surely this topic of conversation would come up and you would then tell them they make you sick ??yes i am Muslim, but have a good few Jewish friends ... i suppose you have no Muslim friends ... and guess what dude, we get along
