The Middle East Conflict Thread

I don't think it will escalate beyond this.... but now that you mention it...Iran has been unusually silent lately... I'm pretty worried about them.

I still think Israel and the US would love for an excuse to bomb Iran.

hmm... I pray that Hamas would just be dissolved and the Palestinian people would get the desire in their hearts to settle down and begin rebuilding their lives and homes.

You know what... I am 99% certain that if the Pallies got rid of Hamas... Israel would withdraw from Gaza and let them govern themselves... would leave them in peace.

We all know that the US and Isrealis are pure evil. All the bull**** propaganda they feed us with (CNN, Fox News and all those conglomorates) are nothing but crap. Who told you that Iraq had WMDs? CNN! Who told you Iran is testing nuclear weapons? CNN. Get my drift.
 
We all know that the US and Isrealis are pure evil. All the bull**** propaganda they feed us with (CNN, Fox News and all those conglomorates) are nothing but crap. Who told you that Iraq had WMDs? CNN! Who told you Iran is testing nuclear weapons? CNN. Get my drift.

We do? Sorry, I'm not into all that conspiracy crap. The whole idea of having an free and open democracy is so that anyone can find out the truth for themselves. Are you telling me that every news agency in Israel in and the USA are in collusion to dupe every other news agency in the world... and the general public? Have you had your fix yet today?
 
This was bombed by the Israelis on the premise that its facilities were been used in to manufacture explosives for Hamas.

I think it is about time the rest of the world stepped in and put a stop to this on both sides.

Draw up national borders etc and use the equivalent of SIT and STAY

Plus make Jerusalem and International Holy City controlled by no one group

LOL! How old are you? You do realize that what you just proposed was exactly what the UN did after the 1967 war???? :D
 
I don't follow the link to the Holocaust. Help somebody?

The holocaust... antisemitism... hatred for the Jews.... a desire to exterminate them.... its not that hard. 99% of the world gets it... except for the racist anti-Jew Nazis.
 
Funny I have not seen any attacks from the pro Israel side however from the Hamas side....well thats another story.

antisemitism rears its ugly head.... always crying foul to the world while stabbing innocents in the back behind the scenes.
 
The holocaust... antisemitism... hatred for the Jews.... a desire to exterminate them.... its not that hard. 99% of the world gets it... except for the racist anti-Jew Nazis.

I see. I agree, I just read the sentence differently - Like they are fighting over the holocaust or something, which would be hard to follow.
 
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Well the rockets being fired now are able to go deeper and come from Iran so in a sense Iran is supplying the rockets which are being used to attack Israel, as gary said they have been very silent and for me thats a massive worry.

End of the world will come from the middle-east as to when this happens remains to be seen. I believe when Iran is attacked or attacks is the beginning of the end :p
 
We do? Sorry, I'm not into all that conspiracy crap. The whole idea of having an free and open democracy is so that anyone can find out the truth for themselves. Are you telling me that every news agency in Israel in and the USA are in collusion to dupe every other news agency in the world... and the general public? Have you had your fix yet today?

Oh Please, conspiricies aside. I'm saying that we always just getting one side of the story. Isreali's are killing hundreds of innocent people daily but they cry "Holocaust" everytime they reprimanded. But yes, for example if somone says Garyvdh is a bad person everyday we do tend to believe it because we haven't yet heard your side of the story.

BTW: What fix? myBB. Just started! dude.
 
Well the rockets being fired now are able to go deeper and come from Iran so in a sense Iran is supplying the rockets which are being used to attack Israel, as gary said they have been very silent and for me thats a massive worry.

End of the world will come from the middle-east as to when this happens remains to be seen. I believe when Iran is attacked or attacks is the beginning of the end :p

I think Iran is closer to being nuked by Israel than it or the world realizes. These people don't seem to realize that the Jews mean business. Right now Iran is busy trying to build a nuclear weapon, whilst the world bickers about it. In the meantime they have ordered some very sophisticated missiles from an increasingly belligerent Russia. According to them, Israel will let them receive the missiles, build nuclear weapons and then attack it. How crazy is that?
 
I still think Israel and the US would love for an excuse to bomb Iran.
I'm sure they would, justified or not.

Israel would withdraw from Gaza and let them govern themselves
Unlikely. The Israeli government has not shown a lot of real interest in peace. Any time there is an agreement they do just as much as the other side to undermine it and re-ignite hostilities.

What is happening now, the attacks on Gaza, are more likely than anything else political campaigning for the upcoming elections.
 
I don't think it will escalate beyond this.... but now that you mention it...Iran has been unusually silent lately... I'm pretty worried about them.

I still think Israel and the US would love for an excuse to bomb Iran.

hmm... I pray that Hamas would just be dissolved and the Palestinian people would get the desire in their hearts to settle down and begin rebuilding their lives and homes.

You know what... I am 99% certain that if the Pallies got rid of Hamas... Israel would withdraw from Gaza and let them govern themselves... would leave them in peace.

This is really tragic. As a student of history and having traveled a bit here's my take:

What the news reports and what actually happens are 2 different things. In my time in the UK and elsewhere, I watched and listened to local news that painted a vastly different picture of what my country was about. I'm sure others would agree with me here. News agencies in whatever form first mostly focus on negative news(that sells) and color the 'facts' accordingly. So just imagine the reverse - don't believe all conclusions drawn from the experts on news media.

On my travels, I've been lucky enough to come across a diverse number of races of people. One inescapable fact is that most people no matter what color, shape, size, creed etc are decent folk. They will help even if they don't know you from a bar of soap - as I have witnessed and experienced time and again.

Then you get the radicals(who make up a small percentage) in society on any side who will cause it for the rest. Look at history. Hitler and his cronies - yet it is well documented that a lot of German folk did help the Jews at extreme risk to themselves - just because they did not look at it as Germans helping Jews but rather a sense of righting a wrong. There are a lot of other examples.

Hate does NOT happen in a vacuum. I'm probably going to be creamed for this but does anyone wonder why the German heireachy hated the Jews so much? Please study your history carefully! No side is lily-white. The same can be applied to the conflict anywhere across the world. As with the conflict on the strip.

War seems to be something that is greatly influenced by politics and economics. Think about that for a bit. That is where the tragedy lies. Armies, soldiers and henchman act at the behest of a small group of people who have their own selfish interests at heart. And this group is insulated and shielded by what actually goes on on the ground and therefore rarely question the full effect of their decisions and instructions - its just a pawn game. Very rarely will you have a leader who acts for the benefit of society as a whole and who has experienced what the common man goes through - Mandela, Ghandi, Martin Luther King etc. And they too have their faults.

So much more I can say.

What I hope could happen in future is that people in society learn to take responsibility for their actions and those of the leaders they choose to bestow power to. A rather revolutionary mechanism to transform society for the better would be something that allows you to experience what someone else is going through - hunger, pain, despair, the experience of killing an animal, joy, love, the experience of a job well done, music playing etc. We would then be able to relate and deeply consider our actions and the effect we have on people and the environment around us.

That is what I hope.

End of ramble.
 
I'm sure they would, justified or not.

Unlikely. The Israeli government has not shown a lot of real interest in peace. Any time there is an agreement they do just as much as the other side to undermine it and re-ignite hostilities.

What is happening now, the attacks on Gaza, are more likely than anything else political campaigning for the upcoming elections.

so you basically have no idea of what lead up to this current impasse?
 
I think Iran is closer to being nuked by Israel than it or the world realizes. These people don't seem to realize that the Jews mean business. Right now Iran is busy trying to build a nuclear weapon, whilst the world bickers about it. In the meantime they have ordered some very sophisticated missiles from an increasingly belligerent Russia. According to them, Israel will let them receive the missiles, build nuclear weapons and then attack it. How crazy is that?
Iran is becoming nuclear or already is but the idiots of this world still blv it is for energy. The world is in for a good lesson. Israel is, as always, fighting for her survival. How many Islamic states are there? How many Jewish states are there? Israel is in this to the end, this is survival. They will never give up and wont bow to pressure from Arabs. Thats is for sure.
 
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