The Middle East Conflict Thread

timgaul said:
Lehi were mad terrorists, they hardly represented the Jews! :eek:

That's like equating all Muslims to Al-Qaeda! Hardly fitting, wouldn't you say?
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I dont think Alqaeda have been formally intergrated into any Muslim nation's army.

The conflict between Lehi and mainstream Jewish and subsequently Israeli organizations came to an end when Lehi was formally dissolved and integrated into the Israeli Defense Forces on May 31, 1948, its leaders getting amnesty from prosecution or reprisals as part of the integration.
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timgaul said:
Lehi were mad terrorists, they hardly represented the Jews! :eek:

That's like equating all Muslims to Al-Qaeda! Hardly fitting, wouldn't you say?
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The Lehi group were absorbed into the IDF...

much like Umkhonto We Sizwe were absorbed into the SANDF.
 
Aqua_lung said:
I dont think Alqaeda have been formally intergrated into any Muslim nation's army.

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Probably because Al-Qaeda have no formal military training beyond terrorism and suicide missions. They would be an embarrassment to any army. who knows how much of Al-Qaeda is even left and still functioning.

As I pointed out above (and you so conveniently ignored), the Lehi's intentions in contacting the NAZIs were to repatriate Jews to Palestine. Nothing wrong with that.

Now how about those Hamas members using the Nazi salute! And the Grand Mufti asking the Nazis to set up shop in Palestine?
 
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Garyvdh said:
As I pointed out above (and you so conveniently ignored), the Lehi's intentions in contacting the NAZIs were to repatriate Jews to Palestine. Nothing wrong with that.
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Using your logic... not that different from Hamas wanting to return the Palestinians to their homeland using terror as a tactic to prevent further killings of their people.
 
Aqua_lung said:
Using your logic... not that different from Hamas wanting to return the Palestinians to their homeland using terror as a tactic to prevent further killings of their people.
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I don't condone the actions of either group. I think the killing of innocents for ANY cause is disgusting. I am sad to see that you think it is justified. :( But it does not surprise me.

But, I am still waiting to hear your comments on those Hamas guys using the Nazi salute and that Grand Mufti of Jerusalem asking the Nazis to set up shop in Palestine???
 
Aqua_lung said:
I dont think Alqaeda have been formally intergrated into any Muslim nation's army.


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So bombing innocent civilians in shopping malls isn't terrorism and is okay because you're integrated into an army. Gosh darnit, well that makes it alright then thanks for clearing that up.
 
Aqua_lung said:
Using your logic... not that different from Hamas wanting to return the Palestinians to their homeland using terror as a tactic to prevent further killings of their people.
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Uh, Lehi spoke to the Nazis, Hama kills people. Big difference unless your moral compass is really busted.
 
timgaul said:
Uh, Lehi spoke to the Nazis, Hama kills people. Big difference unless your moral compass is really busted.
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So did Lehi... :confused:
Assassination of Lord Moyne
Further information: Lord Moyne#Assassination

On 6 November 1944 Lehi assassinated Lord Moyne in Cairo. Moyne was the highest ranking British government representative in the region. Yitzhak Shamir claimed later that Moyne was assassinated because of his support for a Middle Eastern Arab Federation and anti-Semitic lectures in which Arabs were held to be racially superior to Jews.[22] The assassination rocked the British government, and outraged Winston Churchill, the British Prime Minister. The two assassins, Eliahu Bet-Zouri and Eliahu Hakim were captured and used their trial as a platform to make public their political philosophy. They were executed. In 1975 their bodies were returned to Israel and given a state funeral.[23] In 1982, postage stamps were issued for 20 Olei Hagardom, including Bet-Zouri and Hakim, in a souvenir sheet called "Martyrs of the struggle for Israel's independence". [24] [25]


British police station in Haifa

January 12, 1947, Lehi members drove a truckload of explosives into a British police station in Haifa killing four and injuring 140.


Cairo-Haifa train bombings
Main article: Cairo-Haifa train bombings 1948

During the lead-up to the 1948 Arab-Israeli war the Cairo-Haifa train was mined several times. On February 29, 1948, Lehi mined the train north of Rehovot, killing 28 soldiers and wounding 35. On March 31, the train was mined near Binyamina killing 40 civilians and wounding 60. The second attack was also attributed to Lehi but Lehi never took credit for this event.
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The IDF must be proud accepting these nice people into their army.
 
Aqua_lung said:
So did Lehi... :confused:


The IDF must be proud accepting these nice people into their army.
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Yes, I know, they were terrorists - did you not listen the first time? Ergo they hardly represent the Jewish people.

At least Israel had the good sense to put then in a position where those activities would cease. Hamas on the other hand has been incapable of keeping their militants under wraps. Until they do so they will continue to endure Israel's wrath.

On a side note, they were integrated 60 years ago - don't know about you but very few Lehi soldiers in their 90s left in the IDF. Pretty sure they've stop accepting recruits.
 
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seems like aqua_dung does not want to talk about the real Nazis :D I like how he ignores me cos he doesn't have an answer for what is really going on! ;)
 
Aqua_lung said:
And what triggered the creation of these groups?
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And what triggered the need for the group that triggered the creations of these groups to create the need for these groups in the first place?

I love answering questions with questions, gets us nowhere :rolleyes:
 
Garyvdh said:
seems like aqua_dung does not want to talk about the real Nazis :D I like how he ignores me cos he doesn't have an answer for what is really going on! ;)
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Actually it's not his fault that they don't give them all the answers in the indoctrination cessions.
 
Frankie said:
Actually it's not his fault that they don't give them all the answers in the indoctrination cessions.
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Ja, but as we have seen they give them plenty of propaganda and lies. maybe he forgot the answer to this one! :confused:
 
Top Hamas terrorist leader killed in Gaza strike

Looks like the precision strikes are paying off. :cool:


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1230733134624&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
Sheikh Nizar Rayyan, 52, a senior Hamas [terrorist] leader and cleric, was killed along with several others on Thursday when an IAF aircraft dropped a bomb on the eight-story Jabalya apartment building he lived in, the IDF said.
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http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/01/israel.gaza/index.html
 
Good but sad about the wives and children -It is simple-stop shooting at Israel and they wont panel beat you.
 
Is there any point to debating these issues on this site? You can't really debate anything substantial before the thread gets closed, probably because they hurt someones feelings.

There are plenty of sites where these issues can be debated properly. I suggest you post there at one of them. I have.
 
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