The Middle East Conflict Thread

timgaul said:
If you use history as your basis you are going to get nowhere. Israel is a piece of land mandated legally to the Jews by the UN; if you can't accept that then no law hold and Israel might as well do what they feel like.
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Actually you get quite a long way down the track. The originally agreed territory was illegally mandated, against the desires of those living on the land, against the wishes of ALL UN members in the area including ALL the Arab states, and Israel has illegally grabbed territory on several occasions since. To "do what you feel like" because you have a vast military might (supplied and paid for by another nation), has no moral or humanitarian grounding whatever. To do so with great cruelty and brutality has even less.
 
Sadly, who the IDF/IAF claim to kill, and who they *actually* kill are two very different things.
 
marine1 said:
Yes they probably killed many more terrorists in reality. And maybe captured a few more hopefully ;)
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No, they probably have killed far more civilians than they claim.
 
Israeli terrorists kill Palestinian leader, his wife and 3 children

What you sadly neglected to mention, is that the Israeli terrorists not only killed the Palestinian leader, but also his wife and three innocent children.

Who are the real terrorists of the Middle East? Read the facts. See the figures:

Facts and figures about the Middle East
 
marine1 said:
Maybe the civilians should have listened when Israel warned them to evacuate.
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:rolleyes:

That's like me saying to your family, "Ok, tomorrow I am going to moer Marine1 while he is at his house. I advise you to leave. If you haven't left your house by the time I come around, and you get moered because you stayed, it is then your fault."
 
aperio said:
What you sadly neglected to mention, is that the Israeli terrorists not only killed the Palestinian leader, but also his wife and three innocent children.

Who are the real terrorists of the Middle East? Read the facts. See the figures:

Facts and figures about the Middle East
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Interesting link, thanks aperio.

Pity that so many people round here are immune to facts.
 
killadoob said:
Yes but Gary i rate Israel are bunch of cowards who would rather civilians die than move their ground troops in, very easy to bomb and kill innocent people because your scared of losing soliders.

This war makes them look like cowards.
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Killadoob do you actually believe this?

There is a vast difference between an air assault and a land based assault, the air assault will actually cause less destruction than having 6500 Israeli soldiers and their attendant vehicles trying to destroy the specific people and places that have been attacked in the Gaza strip.

As noted in all of these threads the main reason for the civilian casualties is Hamas strategy of submerging its operations amongst the Palestinian civilian population.

This strategy has a twofold purpose, it is first a deterrent to attack due to the possibility of innocent civilian casualties and second, in the event of an attack these same civilian casualties will help to garner support and sympathy for their cause.
 
Who is funding Israel, and why?

The past few days have seen more than 400 people, mostly civilians, dead in the Middle East. Yesterday Israeli terrorists killed a Palestinian leader and his whole family - including his wife, and children under 18.

Where does Israel get the money to fund all these killings? Who are the dark men behind the scenes providing the money and weapons?

The source of Israeli money
 
rwenzori said:
Maybe the Israelis should evacuate - they seem to REALLY dislike all those horrible rockets!
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Are you been an idiot or just attempting to be sarcastic?

Those rockets have killed plenty of people and have caused countless others to live in abject fear.

A friend of mines sister lived in a kibbutz in Israel and they were on the receiving end of plenty of these rockets, during the last major attack her family in SA managed to get her and her two children here.

These kids were a mess they refused to leave her side, they were terrified of going outside, and they hid under their beds if they heard a loud noise

That is the aim of these rockets, terrorize and possibly kill or main innocent people.
 
R/SGT said:
Are you been an idiot or just attempting to be sarcastic?

Those rockets have killed plenty of people and have caused countless others to live in abject fear.

A friend of mines sister lived in a kibbutz in Israel and they were on the receiving end of plenty of these rockets, during the last major attack her family in SA managed to get her and her two children here.

These kids were a mess they refused to leave her side, they were terrified of going outside, and they hid under their beds if they heard a loud noise

That is the aim of these rockets, terrorize and possibly kill or main innocent people.
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He's trolling ;)

The whole reason this is going on is because they refuse to move. Mr.r is just being a bit slow today :rolleyes:
 
The source of Isreali money is a well known fact. Hamas and other terrorist organizations get their money through shady channels.

As for your statement - it's one thing to be anti or pro Israel/Hamas. It's another thing entirely to make foolish statements such as this and other you have made.

Most pro Israel lobbyist are for peace in the Middle East. Pro Hamas to the extend that you are, are usually all in favour of wiping Israel off the face of the earth.
 
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