The most useless drug ever...

[ponder]

try stopping for 1 day, and taking it back up again. i guarantee it you WILL be high.

You're not supposed to double clutch it...

 

[Sherbang]

Nicotine is very useful as an insecticide.

 

[Aeron]

Oh God, another ignorant rant against cigarettes in the form of a really stupid plight against nicotine. Go back to your cocaine. Use large(lethal) doses for best long term effect.

The epicness of the fail that is this thread is not even matched by the human stupidity that sank the Titanic.

 

[trainsmash22]

Really? Where is it all?

Hahaha. Do you play golf? Something is eating the cash

 

[trainsmash22]

# 1-Decanol

# Hexyl Phenylacetate
# 1-Histidine
# Honey
# Hops Oil

There's the culprit. I always said that I can clearly taste honey in a ciggie hahaha

 

[foozball3000]

Oh God, another ignorant rant against cigarettes in the form of a really stupid plight against nicotine. Go back to your cocaine. Use large(lethal) doses for best long term effect.

The epicness of the fail that is this thread is not even matched by the human stupidity that sank the Titanic.

Well, that's not very nice. Oh, wait.. I forgot one factor... "Punching someone in the face via standard TCP/IP" hasn't been invented yet. So, [-]pathetic[/-] brave school kids like you think you can post whatever you want. Go back to playing The Sims.

 

[Chris_H]

Well, that's not very nice. Oh, wait.. I forgot one factor... "Punching someone in the face via standard TCP/IP" hasn't been invented yet. So, [-]pathetic[/-] brave school kids like you think you can post whatever you want. Go back to playing The Sims.

+1000

 

[noxibox]

I disagree that it is the inhalation of smoke that is the over-riding factor in a reduced life expectancy. Sure it plays a large part, but i think the role nicotine plays extends beyond just being "the addictive part" of smoking. eg- cannabis smokers (don't suffer like cigarette smokers); non-smoking tobacco (also leads to reduced life expectancy).

Cannabis smoking most certainly does carry a cancer risk, along with an increased risk of developing bronchitis. And nothing else you mention could lead to the conclusion that the nicotine is the primary source of any harm from tobacco. Can anyone point to research into the higher cancer levels amongst the users of the nicotine patch?

We do know that nicotine on its own is one of the most toxic substances known to man- a minute amount kills.

Which is pretty much irrelevant.

There are various carcinogens in tobacco, some of them due to the curing process, besides any additives that are found specifically in cigarettes. Nicotine may have an exacerbating effect on the lungs because they're already harmed by the smoke, but what evidence is there that on it's own nicotine causes cancer, even when inhaled?

but you will most likely die before any of these benefits take place....

So they're finding dead people, still walking around, and they have a lower incidence of certain diseases?

I do enjoy the occassional hubbly, but only because it gives me a head rush

That's called getting high.

cigarettes should be on the banned substance list

No they shouldn't. Or maybe we should be monitoring everyone to make sure they aren't doing anything potentially dangerous? Wouldn't want the little children hurt themselves.

 

[Sackboy]

Sackboy, correct, it is not easy to attribute the destructive forces of smoking to any one factor alone, be it the inhalation of smoke or any of the various chemicals a smoker inhales. We do know that nicotine on its own is one of the most toxic substances known to man- a minute amount kills.

Cigarette stompies can kill a healthy baby. It only takes a few.

 

[syntax]

So they're finding dead people, still walking around, and they have a lower incidence of certain diseases?


That's called getting high.


No they shouldn't. Or maybe we should be monitoring everyone to make sure they aren't doing anything potentially dangerous? Wouldn't want the little children hurt themselves.

I was making a point somewhere saying that arguing that there might be certain health benefits from smoking is somewhat backward, since whatever benefit u gain would be null compared to the ill side effects...

Getting high? ok...if u so say...and ur point?

Cigarettes are dangerous in their own way and highly addictive so i am not sure what makes it so different from other drugs? Where do you draw the line for protecting ppl? If i cant make the decision to take other narcotics legally what makes cigarettes so different? I can drink and smoke legally but i cant have a joint or pop a pill?

 

[Arthur]

dumbest drug

Perhaps. But are you happy?

 

[noxibox]

Cigarette stompies can kill a healthy baby. It only takes a few.

Plenty of things will kill a baby. The toxicity of nicotine is totally irrelevant. It is not toxic in a normal dose, and that is all that is important.

I was making a point somewhere saying that arguing that there might be certain health benefits from smoking is somewhat backward, since whatever benefit u gain would be null compared to the ill side effects...

People don't smoke for potential health benefits. It's a paradox because while smoking is clearly dangerous, it has turned out that it also appears to protect against certain diseases. And of course they'd only know that if people were surviving and not getting certain diseases. However if that protection stems from nicotine, then others can gain those health benefits without any need to ever smoke cigarettes.

Addiction potential is itself completely irrelevant. Addiction is not in itself harmful.

so i am not sure what makes it so different from other drugs?

Nothing. It is well-established that our drug laws are completely arbitrary. It is however personal choice to ingest nicotine in a harmful form, and those who do so pay additional taxes for the choice.

Where do you draw the line for protecting ppl?

You let adults decide for themselves whether they wish to risk harm to themselves. It is no-one else's business. The only logical conclusion of trying to protect people from themselves is the ultimate banning of anything that is considered to have risk.

 

[Sackboy]

Plenty of things will kill a baby. The toxicity of nicotine is totally irrelevant. It is not toxic in a normal dose, and that is all that is important.


People don't smoke for potential health benefits. It's a paradox because while smoking is clearly dangerous, it has turned out that it also appears to protect against certain diseases. And of course they'd only know that if people were surviving and not getting certain diseases. However if that protection stems from nicotine, then others can gain those health benefits without any need to ever smoke cigarettes.

Addiction potential is itself completely irrelevant. Addiction is not in itself harmful.


Nothing. It is well-established that our drug laws are completely arbitrary. It is however personal choice to ingest nicotine in a harmful form, and those who do so pay additional taxes for the choice.


You let adults decide for themselves whether they wish to risk harm to themselves. It is no-one else's business. The only logical conclusion of trying to protect people from themselves is the ultimate banning of anything that is considered to have risk.

I'm going to disagree with you there. Smoking is costing the health system an enormous amount each year, not to mention the economy. In fact, they debated this once in the UK and many officials were recommending that doctors not prioritize operations on people with smoking-related illnesses.

 

[Empiricism Philosopher]

I have used diff types of drugs and got over it but I can not get over chocolates!

 

[scotty777]

ok, wtf is with this list? look :

# Valine
# Vanilla Extract And Oleoresin
# Vanillin
# Veratraldehyde
# Vetiver Oil
# Vinegar
# Violet Leaf Absolute
# Walnut Hull Extract
# Water
# Wheat Extract And Flour
# Wild Cherry Bark Extract
# Wine and Wine Sherry

Hmmm, Wine and Wine Sherry!? Walnit hull Extract, Vinegar!

Tobacco Extracts

um??? you would say???

# Thyme Oil, White and Red

hmmm...

# Tea Leaf and Absolute

Wtf is Absolute!?

# Sugar Alcohols

More alcohol!?

# Rosemary Oil
# Rum
# Rum Ether

hmmm, even more alcohol and more herbs!

# Plum Juice

OH GOD NO! NOT PLUM JUICE!

# Pine Needle Oil, Pine Oil, Scotch
# Pineapple Juice Concentrate

OH THE HUMANITY!

# Pepper Oil, Black And White
# Peppermint Oil

I don't smoke menthol,

# Myrrh Oil
# beta-Napthyl Ethyl Ether
# Nerol
# Neroli Bigarde Oil
# Nerolidol
# Nona-2-trans,6-cis-Dienal
# 2,6-Nonadien-1-Ol
# gamma-Nonalactone
# Nonanal
# Nonanoic Acid
# Nonanone
# trans-2-Nonen-1-Ol
# 2-Nonenal
# Nonyl Acetate
# Nutmeg Powder and Oil
# Oak Chips Extract and Oil
# Oak Moss Absolute

ok, Nutmeg powder, chips extract and oak moss absolute I can deal with, but where is the Nicotine??? hmmm...

# Mountain Maple Solid Extract

sweet?

# Maple Syrup and Concentrate

hmmm... very sweet?

# Lavender Oil

I don't know how this even finds it's way in cigarettes (Perhaps they employ Chefs??? )

* Coffee

you can't be serious

* Chocolate

Hmmm, this explains why so many kids smoke


Hmmm, honestly, I think the R25 a box of smokes it amazing value, you get most of your day dietary requirements with each ciggy and a little booze to keep you going!

 

[foozball3000]

lol! @ ^^