The MyBB Pit Bull attack thread

[RaptorSA]

What do pit bulls hate most about their owners?

Spoiler

The galbladder

 

[Lupus]

Are you not able to?

I'm not the one claiming anyone with a brain could tell ;-).
Are you struggling as well? Hence wanting me to point it out for you?

 

[RaptorSA]

Lol when owners start posting photos of themselves and their dogs top prove that they are not a danger to society.

More pics of w..... ah nevermind.

He's not even looking at the child.
/Case closed.

 

[konfab]

Do you own any dogs?

Not currently as the wife's sausage dog recent was recently put to sleep on account of age.

 

[Lupus]

Not currently as the wife's sausage dog recent was recently put to sleep on account of age.

You let that near your children?? You know how snappy they are with reports of 1 in 5 biting humans.

 

[konfab]

After the "pit bull" breed is banned, you move on to the next and the next and the next?
Meanwhile

Study finds Pit Bulls less aggressive than Chihuahuas - Panter, Panter & Sampedro

Believe it or not, the often feared American Pit Bull Terrier has been rated as less aggressive than the tiny Chihuahua in a study by Dognition. Chihuahuas were the most aggressive dog, leading to plenty of personal injury claims, while Pit Bulls ranked toward the bottom of the 35-breed list.…

panterlaw.com

This little shyte runs free cause it can't do any damage.

Because asking shïtbull owners about how aggressive their mutt is the gold standard of objective study. Just look at this thread.

“Seldom aggressive” dogs​

In the study conducted by Dognition, pet owners were asked how aggressive their dog is in a variety of situations. More than 4,000 people with dogs responded, noting their dog’s reactions in situations like new or familiar children and adults and when they encounter another dog that is new, familiar, bigger or smaller.

In general, even Chihuahuas weren’t very aggressive – they were mostly rated “sometimes aggressive.” But other breeds including collies, pugs and spaniels were rated seldom or never aggressive. As for Pit Bulls, they almost always ranked below most other dogs in all categories, minus their interactions with new dogs.

What do other studies say?​

The American Temperament Test Society, a non-profit organization that promotes uniform temperament evaluation of purebred and mixed-breed dogs, ranks breeds of dogs based on their tolerance of other dogs and humans.

American Pit Bull Terriers pass the temperament test 86.8% of the time – only 115 of the 870 dogs that were tested so far failed. Compare that to 80% of Beagles, 75% of Bloodhounds, 81.5% of Border Collies and 69.8% of Chihuahuas.

How many people are going to say their dog is a violent menace? Again I refer to the NPR interview that I posted earlier in this thread, where the shïtbull owner referred to dog bites that drew blood as "nips".

 

[konfab]

You let that near your children?? You know how snappy they are with reports of 1 in 5 biting humans.

And I was willing to take that risk because he was missing most of his teeth by the time we started having children.

 

[Lupus]

Because asking shïtbull owners about how aggressive their mutt is the gold standard of objective study. Just look at this thread.




How many people are going to say their dog is a violent menace? Again I refer to the NPR interview that I posted earlier in this thread, where the shïtbull owner referred to dog bites that drew blood as "n'ips".

Oddly enough, this thread actually has very limited pit bull owners on here, what it does have is some people who have "pit bull" type dogs, who you want to ban, which you still cannot actually even identify to say that even people with brains could identify one...
What it also indicates is that there are a lot of people wanting to ban a dangerous dog, without actually even knowing what is a dangerous dog. Plus what happens when it's done? Do you keep moving down the list until we end up with passively aggressive hamsters?

 

[Lupus]

And I was willing to take that risk because he was missing most of his teeth by the time we started having children.

Aaah I see, so it's all fine cause the dog was old and had no teeth... So not anything about "domestication" or breeds naturally aggressive... But rather what you assume is safe.
So what we need to do is just get toothless APBs

 

[Bliksis]

I'm not the one claiming anyone with a brain could tell ;-).
Are you struggling as well? Hence wanting me to point it out for you?

Nice deflect I asked a long time ago which other breeds are also killers.

 

[Lupus]

Nice deflect I asked a long time ago which other breeds are also killers.

• Most Dangerous/Fatal Attacks: After Pit Bulls, Rottweilers are responsible for the highest number of severe injuries and fatalities. Other high-risk breeds include German Shepherds, Presa Canarios, Cane Corsos, and Dogo Argentinos.
• Most Likely to Bite (Small Dogs): Studies, such as one from the University of Pennsylvania, have found that smaller breeds like Chihuahuas, Dachshunds, and Jack Russell Terriers display higher rates of aggression, though their bites are less likely to be reported or cause fatal injuries.
• Most Aggressive Towards Other Dogs: Akitas, Jack Russell Terriers, and Siberian Huskies have been reported to display high levels of aggression toward unfamiliar dogs.

4 of those are of the Mastiff type dogs, so why aren't they lumped together as Mastiffs, like Staffies, APBs and bullies are all lumped into Pit bull types?

 

[Bliksis]

• Most Dangerous/Fatal Attacks: After Pit Bulls, Rottweilers are responsible for the highest number of severe injuries and fatalities. Other high-risk breeds include German Shepherds, Presa Canarios, Cane Corsos, and Dogo Argentinos.
• Most Likely to Bite (Small Dogs): Studies, such as one from the University of Pennsylvania, have found that smaller breeds like Chihuahuas, Dachshunds, and Jack Russell Terriers display higher rates of aggression, though their bites are less likely to be reported or cause fatal injuries.
• Most Aggressive Towards Other Dogs: Akitas, Jack Russell Terriers, and Siberian Huskies have been reported to display high levels of aggression toward unfamiliar dogs.

4 of those are of the Mastiff type dogs, so why aren't they lumped together as Mastiffs, like Staffies, APBs and bullies are all lumped into Pit bull types?

Your list includes all dogs

What is the source of this?

 

[Sir Peel-a-Lot]

Just gonna leave this here from someone who talks sense. Humans create problems for themselves and then blame the animal.

 

[konfab]

Oddly enough, this thread actually has very limited pit bull owners on here, what it does have is some people who have "pit bull" type dogs, who you want to ban, which you still cannot actually even identify to say that even people with brains could identify one...
What it also indicates is that there are a lot of people wanting to ban a dangerous dog, without actually even knowing what is a dangerous dog. Plus what happens when it's done? Do you keep moving down the list until we end up with passively aggressive hamsters?

People can though. It isn't complex.







The person who wrote Pitguesser has the data:

Now I’m going to return to the data generated by pitguesser.10 This data allows us to qualify and quantify how well pit bulls can be visually identified with a greater degree of clarity than we see in the rest of the literature. The images on the pitguesser website come from the Olson et al. authors, but the participants in that study got to actually meet a subset of the sample of dogs in-person, so their ability to ‘figure them out’ should’ve been greater than what we can get from pictures. Nevertheless, in the simplest game mode—Pit or Pal—, where two different dogs are compared and the user has to pick which is the pit bull, people achieved incredible accuracy.

After screening out repeaters, people who clicked too rapidly, people who completed fewer than twelve rounds, people who came from a pro-pit bull forum, and people who had previously seen the images in another game mode, we ended up with hundreds of thousands of players with valid responses in each game mode. People were correct at identifying which of two dogs was a pit bull in 83.4% of cases.11

 

[Lupus]

People can though. It isn't complex.


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The person who wrote Pitguesser has the data:

That is a very funny looking dog there, please point to me on this graph where the aggressive dog is?
Once again you cannot tell me what an aggressive dog is, but you let a toothless old one around your kid.
So basically you're calling for the banning of all dogs, cause you cannot tell what one is.

 

[konfab]

Just gonna leave this here from someone who talks sense. Humans create problems for themselves and then blame the animal.

Milan is being naive here.

We should be clear here, dogs are effectively manufactured by humans. People are the ones breeding them. Therefore we should treat them like the way we treat a manufactured product in terms of liability (before people become retarded about this, I am not suggesting that it is permissible to be cruel to any dog or to not treat it with anything but care).

I can make an analogy, and that is with firearms. I strongly believe in the right to carry a firearm. However that right does not include carrying a weapon that can randomly go off and hurt a third party. This is why things like grenades and fully automatic weapons are generally banned from public ownership, even in the US. Normal firearms require complete intention on the part of the person wielding them. A dog that has been bred for fighting, like a Pit bull, is analogous to a gun that can randomly go off at any time.

If the US government went and banned the Sig Saur P320, and forcefully expropriated, or disarmed all of them from their owners, it wouldn't be a violation of a written constitutional right because it is extremely narrow. And most gun owners would probably be happy with it, because the people who buy those guns are usually retarded. Any challenge to this would be that you can simply get any other 9mm gun, so your constitutional right is not being infringed, and your right to property isn't being infringed either as the government would pay you if they took the gun.

What would be the greater harm to society if it went and banned dogs that come from a heritage of fighting? That is it. Other dogs that come from working dog lines like Dobermans and German Shepards wouldn't count. And as I said before, it doesn't mean the state will go round killing people's pets. All they do is ensure all offending dogs are sterilised, and unwanted dogs that fit the category are euthanised immediately.

 

[konfab]

That is a very funny looking dog there, please point to me on this graph where the aggressive dog is?
Once again you cannot tell me what an aggressive dog is, but you let a toothless old one around your kid.
So basically you're calling for the banning of all dogs, cause you cannot tell what one is.

https://pitguesser.com/

Play the Pit or Pal game.

This is my score. Basically, pick the pit bull.



I am not much of a dog person, and I can get 83%.

 

[Lupus]

https://pitguesser.com/

Play the Pit or Pal game.

This is my score. Basically, pick the pit bull.
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I am not much of a dog person, and I can get 83%.

This doesn't help your case at all. Firstly you selected Rottweiler for an American Bulldog (which is oddly enough one of the dogs mistaken for a pit bull, though it falls in the same type as Rottweiler.)
You then had Boxer for an American Staffie? Which is also a Pit bull type dog, so basically this indicates you literally do not even know what a pit bull type dog is and those that are mistaken for it.
Yet you see fit to claim that they are the most aggressive? When you're not even sure what type of dog you're even talking about, cause the media does do tell you so right? Them the bad dogs, you're just parroting what the media tells you.

 

[Bliksis]

This doesn't help your case at all. Firstly you selected Rottweiler for an American Bulldog (which is oddly enough one of the dogs mistaken for a pit bull, though it falls in the same type as Rottweiler.)
You then had Boxer for an American Staffie? Which is also a Pit bull type dog, so basically this indicates you literally do not even know what a pit bull type dog is and those that are mistaken for it.
Yet you see fit to claim that they are the most aggressive? When you're not even sure what type of dog you're even talking about, cause the media does do tell you so right? Them the bad dogs, you're just parroting what the media tells you.

You're trying very hard here.

 

[Lupus]

You're trying very hard here.

Because banning a type of dog isn't the answer, it will just move to the next one and the next one, where we end up with hamsters as pets.
As where you do you draw the line? Could put other actions in place to prevent bites, as in ownership of a particular type of dog needs to be licensed? Or something else, but banning them just leads down a rabbit hole of possible other dogs being banned.