The PC Build Thread

[Soul Assassin]

So as per above question...

Would building a media PC around the 'Intel Core i3 7100 Dual Core 3.9 Ghz LGA1151 Kaby Lake processor' be a good bet?

From what I could gather the on board graphics would be better than a HD5450 video card and should handle 4k video playback just fine? Does this sound about right

4k video, sure...it's not going to be any use gaming.

Your budget of R6K is not going to get you a 4k gaming machine...might be sacrilege to suggest this in this thread but I'd look into a console.

Bolded the relevant part.

Some gaming if possible.

 

[DCS]

4k video, sure...it's not going to be any use gaming.

Your budget of R6K is not going to get you a 4k gaming machine...might be sacrilege to suggest this in this thread but I'd look into a console.

Gaming wise I was thinking of playing like the original duke nukem 3d definitely not expecting 4k gaming...

Ok cool so the above processor should eliminate the need for a graphics card as far as playing 4k content smoothly is concerned?

And a good motherboard to pair it with? This is where I get confused

 

[Soul Assassin]

Gaming wise I was thinking of playing like the original duke nukem 3d definitely not expecting 4k gaming...

Ok cool so the above processor should eliminate the need for a graphics card as far as playing 4k content smoothly is concerned?

And a good motherboard to pair it with? This is where I get confused

All motherboards for the most part are created equally, some more so than others, but for your needs just get this:

ASRock B250M-HDV

It's only R1087, it supports the CPU you want, it has 6 SATA and 6 USB 3 ports and it even has a M.2 slot if you want to get a cheap OEM SSD off of Carbonite.

 

[Neoprod]

Gaming wise I was thinking of playing like the original duke nukem 3d definitely not expecting 4k gaming...

Duke Nukem 3D came out for PS4 and Xbone a year or two ago

Check if you can find an Intel G4600...it's much cheaper than the i3-7100 but offers similar performance (apart from AVX2 which is not important in a media \ gaming PC). A G4560 would be even cheaper (like half the price) but uses a slightly older model integrated graphics which is not good if you're not going to have a dedicated graphics card. I don't have numbers on hand but a G4560 and a R1500 GPU would probably beat an i3-7100 by a distance in gaming.

The B250 chipset is the budget-friendly chipset for Kaby Lake so you can stick with the board Soul suggested (unless you find a cheaper one somewhere).

 

[Soul Assassin]

Duke Nukem 3D came out for PS4 and Xbone a year or two ago

Check if you can find an Intel G4600...it's much cheaper than the i3-7100 but offers similar performance (apart from AVX2 which is not important in a media \ gaming PC). A G4560 would be even cheaper (like half the price) but uses a slightly older model integrated graphics which is not good if you're not going to have a dedicated graphics card. I don't have numbers on hand but a G4560 and a R1500 GPU would probably beat an i3-7100 by a distance in gaming.

The B250 chipset is the budget-friendly chipset for Kaby Lake so you can stick with the board Soul suggested (unless you find a cheaper one somewhere).

I don't think that's good advice, Netflix 4K requires minimum a 7th Gen Core CPU, not that the ones you listed aren't capable of 4K but it won't work with Netflix, best to get a Core CPU to future proof.

What about the Intel Kaby Lake Core i5-7400 from PotterH for R1700?

 

[ponder]

What about the Intel Kaby Lake Core i5-7400 from PotterH for R1700?

Much better value than the i3

 

[Neoprod]

^, good point re Netflix 4K - I forgot about that stupidity with the Kaby Lake requirement...I also don't have a 4K TV or a 25mbps line - 0 for 3 .

ja, that i5 is a great deal - 2700 for board and CPU leaves a decent stack for mem, PSU, case.

 

[DCS]

Much better value than the i3

Thanks everyone! Umm... potterh a quick search brings up carbonite, though can't find anything on there...

Another stupid question... all the cheap motherboards seem to be missing an hdmi port on the back so like anything above the R1300 point seems to have hdmi out on the board... does that seem right?

 

[ponder]

All motherboards for the most part are created equally, some more so than others, but for your needs just get this:

ASRock B250M-HDV

It's only R1087, it supports the CPU you want, it has 6 SATA and 6 USB 3 ports and it even has a M.2 slot if you want to get a cheap OEM SSD off of Carbonite.

Learnt something new today, The 100 series chipset ASRock R3.0 boards are Kaby Lake ready out of the box so no need for a BIOS flash.

R722 - ASROCK H110M-DVS R3.0
R844 - ASROCK H110M-HDV R3.0

 

[ponder]

Thanks everyone! Umm... potterh a quick search brings up carbonite, though can't find anything on there...

Another stupid question... all the cheap motherboards seem to be missing an hdmi port on the back so like anything above the R1300 point seems to have hdmi out on the board... does that seem right?

http://carbonite.co.za/member.php?29022-PotterH
http://carbonite.co.za/showthread.p...7700-i5-7500-amp-i5-7400-Processors-Clearance
http://www.mineaway.co.za/ Run by same person

https://www.rebeltech.co.za/14797-asrock-h110m-hdv-r30.html has HDMI for R844

 

[Soul Assassin]

Learnt something new today, The 100 series chipset R3.0 ASRock boards are Kaby Lake ready out of the box so no need for a BIOS flash.

R722 - ASROCK H110M-DVS R3.0
R844 - ASROCK H110M-HDV R3.0

Neither of those have HDMI though, so the one I recommended still seems to be the best.

 

[Neoprod]

Neither of those have HDMI though, so the one I recommended still seems to be the best.

The second one claims to.

 

[Soul Assassin]

The second one claims to.

Just checked again, I somehow didn't see it on the picture or notice it in the description, it was listed last instead of first.

So if it does in fact work with Kaby Lake that's another R200 saved.

 

[ponder]

Neither of those have HDMI though, so the one I recommended still seems to be the best.

The HDV has HDMI https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H110M-HDV R3.0/?cat=Specifications

 

[Soul Assassin]

The HDV has HDMI https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H110M-HDV R3.0/?cat=Specifications

Wrong picture but yes, I did see it has HDMI.

 

[Neoprod]

^, ja, ponds...you day-drinking again?

 

[ponder]

So if it does in fact work with Kaby Lake that's another R200 saved.

I fired a mail off to Rebeltech yesterday inquiring if they could flash the board before sending it off and the reply was no need to as the newer R3.0 boards are kaby lake ready out of the box.

This is a good thing for budget builds as those boards are the cheapest you can get.

 

[ponder]

Wrong picture but yes, I did see it has HDMI.

^, ja, ponds...you day-drinking again?

Got it from Raru https://raru.co.za/electronics/5488356-asrock-h110m-hdv-r3-0-intel-lga1151-micro-atx-motherboard

EDIT: ASRock uses the same pic, they just cut off the empty part of the MB.

Let me find another one.

EDIT: Updated.

 

[zamrg]

It's been about 8 years since I upgraded, so I'm looking to purchase a new budget-mid level gaming PC.
I must admit, I'm not very clued up about specs and hardware these days - it's been that long. I'm currently sporting a Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400, 5GB DDR2, ASUSTek P5Q LGA775 motherboard with a Nvidia Geforce 9600 GT

I've tried to put something together myself, but am looking for any advice on what I'm missing, could change up, or cut down to slim costs a bit.
I've priced the components from evetech as they seem to be fairly competitive, but this is just for budgeting.

• MSI Z370 PC Pro Intel Motherboard R2,571.45
• Intel 8th Gen Core i5-8400 Coffee Lake up to 4.00GHz 9MB Cache LGA 1151 R3,358.95
• Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) 2400MHz DDR4 Memory R1,311.45
• Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 32 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive R1,573.95
• Western Digital BLUE WD20EZRZ 2TB HDD / 64MB Cache / SATA 6.0Gb/s / 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive R1,080.45
• Antec TP-750C 750W GOLD Power Supply R1,363.95
• NZXT S340 Elite Matte Black Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case 1363.95
• MSI GeForce GTX 1060 OC OVERCLOCKED Edition 6GB GDDR5 1280 Core VR Ready Graphics Card 4828.95

Total: R17,453.10

I'm considering bumping the memory to 16GB for an additional R1311, but it's already slightly above what I'd like to spend.
Do I need a CPU cooler here, or will the stock one suffice?
Is the GTX 1060 going to last me a little while?

Appreciate any help I can get here!

 

[ponder]

Appreciate any help I can get here!

I7-7700 + GTX 1070 + 16GB RAM for R19020

R2900 - Intel 7th Gen Core Desktop Processor i7-7700
R1293 - ASRock B250M Pro4
R2269 - G.SKILL F4-2400C15D-16GFX Flare X 16GB Kit DDR4-2400
R6936 - GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1070 WINDFORCE OC GV-N1070WF2OC-8GD
R999 - Super Flower SF-550F14MT Leadex 550W 80 Plus Silver Certified Fully Modular PSU
R1149 - Western Digital Blue WD20EZRZ 2TB
R1796 - Samsung 850 EVO, 250GB, M.2, SATA6G, 540/500MB/s
R379 - RAIJINTEK THEMIS 0R100010
R1299 - Phanteks PH-EC416PSTG_BW Eclipse P400S Silent-Edition

R19 020