The PC Build Thread

[Neoprod]

Ryzen is pretty fun to mess around with There's a lot to learn for people who like to have a fiddle (and are coming from Intel). Multi-core performance in Handbrake \ Ripbot is solid but came across an issue with how Windows is using the CPU when the workload isn't heavily-threaded (older games in particular from what I've seen). The Ryzen Master software tells me core 4 is the fastest core in my CPU but Windows prefers core 1 for single-threaded work while CCX1 (contains cores 4,5,6) is asleep most of the time.

After digging around online seems MSI have not yet released a B450 bios with CPPC (collaborative processor performance control) enabled. CPPC lets the Windows scheduler assign work to the best performing core \ core complex in single \ lightly-threaded workloads. I'll be keeping half an eye out for that.

It's much of a muchness since I haven't overclocked anything (all cores run at 4.2Ghz under load) but I might someday...would be nice to know the work gets assigned to the fastest core in the system.

 

[Saba'a]

Can't you just spec your own components and get a company or two to quote on it which gets submitted to insurance and they pay out the cash to you? That's what I did.

Finally settled but gave me vouchers at makro or takealot as options. Opted for TA.

Not sure what options to consider at takealot. Other than chassis, GPUs and drives, not much options.

 

[ponder]

Finally settled but gave me vouchers at makro or takealot as options. Opted for TA.

Not sure what options to consider at takealot. Other than chassis, GPUs and drives, not much options.

What components do you need and what's the budget?

 

[Saba'a]

What components do you need and what's the budget?

R19 000 voucher ... whole pc but think I'll rebuild old pc

In which case psu and gpu biggest issues.

Will assess old pc.

 

[ponder]

R19 000 voucher ... whole pc but think I'll rebuild old pc

In which case psu and gpu biggest issues.

Will assess old pc.

I'm confused.

 

[Saba'a]

I'm confused.

Have an old pc w.o a psu and old old gpu but also an i5 cpu and 16gb ram. So fairly similar to stolen pc.

Bought pc that was stolen only because it had a better chassis and gpu and had 2 boys so needed 2 equivalent pcs at the time.

So since takealot has only parts in most cases and old pc pretty much similar in power to stolen pc, thinking to simply add to old pc. Cheaper to buy psu and gpu for it.

Have a R19 000 takealot voucher from useless insurance.

So buy gpu and psu for old pc. Instead of replacing stolen pc with a brand new pc. Cheaper.
Plus kids have a xbox one and ps4.

 

[ponder]

Have an old pc w.o a psu and old old gpu but also an i5 cpu and 16gb ram. So fairly similar to stolen pc.

Bought pc that was stolen only because it had a better chassis and gpu and had 2 boys so needed 2 equivalent pcs at the time.

So since takealot has only parts in most cases and old pc pretty much similar in power to stolen pc, thinking to simply add to old pc. Cheaper to buy psu and gpu for it.

Have a R19 000 takealot voucher from useless insurance.

So buy gpu and psu for old pc. Instead of replacing stolen pc with a brand new pc. Cheaper.
Plus kids have a xbox one and ps4.

Which i5 cpu do you have?

 

[Saba'a]

Old pc setup is equal to stolen one other than gou and chassis

Old one i5 4460; gigabyte 650 2gb; 16 gb corsair ram; z97 motherboard. Have a 250gb samsung evo ssd.

Need a better gpu and psu.

 

[ponder]

Old pc setup is equal to stolen one other than gou and chassis

Old one i5 4460; gigabyte 650 2gb; 16 gb corsair ram; z97 motherboard. Have a 250gb samsung evo ssd.

Need a better gpu and psu.

Takealot

www.takealot.com

Takealot

www.takealot.com

Flog that 4460 on carbonite and replace it with a 4790, maybe even offer to swap for something on takealot.

The insurance company giving you vouchers is piss poor of them.

 

[Saba'a]

Takealot

www.takealot.com

Takealot

www.takealot.com

Flog that 4460 on carbonite and replace it with a 4790, maybe even offer to swap for something on takealot.

The insurance company giving you vouchers is piss poor of them.

Yep Discovery Insurance ... bunch of .

Considering other insurance companies.

 

[Saba'a]

Takealot

www.takealot.com

Takealot

www.takealot.com

Flog that 4460 on carbonite and replace it with a 4790, maybe even offer to swap for something on takealot.

The insurance company giving you vouchers is piss poor of them.

Check this out on takealot: Intel i5 7600K Kabylake-S 7th Generation Processor LGA1151 - No CPU Cooler Included

Takealot

www.takealot.com

Or is not compatible with motherboard? Will have to check out the exact model

PSU a 550W. A 600W not better or good enough ito power??

 

[ponder]

Or is not compatible with motherboard? Will have to check out the exact model

PSU a 550W. A 600W not better or good enough ito power??

Not compatible, you have to stick to the 4th gen Haswell chips. Best one there is the i7-4790k.

550W is fine but you can go 600W if you want.

 

[Saba'a]

Takealot

www.takealot.com

Takealot

www.takealot.com

Flog that 4460 on carbonite and replace it with a 4790, maybe even offer to swap for something on takealot.

The insurance company giving you vouchers is piss poor of them.

I see its a different model and only slightly cheaper. Whats the difference?


Check this out on takealot: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 Ti OC 6GB Graphics Card

Takealot

www.takealot.com

 

[ponder]

I see its a different model and only slightly cheaper. Whats the difference?

The cooler and the clock speed. Either will work though.

 

[Magnum]

Did a Ryzen 3900X build mated to a 2080S. Man this thing performs. never hits 10% CPU usage. Had to stick the old 280MM rad back on it for the OEM overclocing speeds as the fan was annoying. Now everything just idles.
You are BACK AMD! Took you bloody long enough.

 

[Saba'a]

Did a Ryzen 3900X build mated to a 2080S. Man this thing performs. never hits 10% CPU usage. Had to stick the old 280MM rad back on it for the OEM overclocing speeds as the fan was annoying. Now everything just idles.
You are BACK AMD! Took you bloody long enough.

Any build you would recommend. Would mean new motherboard cpu plus of course psu and gpu.

Only RAM and case I could use then.

 

[Magnum]

Any build you would recommend. Would mean new motherboard cpu plus of course psu and gpu.

Only RAM and case I could use then.

Don't go for Ryzen 3900X or 3950X. Its useless. Everything I have can't saturate that CPU above 10% running concurrently. Permanently 20 cores/Threads parked. normal operation 5-10W per active core. Now and then you get usage spikes.

I have a X570 Plus WiFi ASUS and 1Tb NVMe drive with 16GB Gskill 3600Mhz Ram.

Unless there is a exponential processing requirement expansion due to the new AMD capabilities It will take 5-6 years to saturate this build to 50% (I guess).

GPU advancement given 3 years maybe. Depends on RayTraycing developments.
I ran Borderlands 3 on ultra with 4K display and got 110- 120 FPS on bench.
PUBG is 100FPS and dips into low 90's during explosions ect.
DOTA. just lols.

Don't have anything else I could really compare Gameplay with.

 

[Magnum]

Was thinking to ask you guys to help setup a Linux based instance to bruteforce a Zip file with a full WIN CD key as the password and see how long that takes.

Both CPU and GPU Computing.

 

[ponder]

Any build you would recommend. Would mean new motherboard cpu plus of course psu and gpu.

Only RAM and case I could use then.

Your ram is no good, it's ddr3 and you need ddr4 on newer intel/amd motherboards.

Recommended build for most gamers would be ryzen 5 3600 cpu + b450 motherboard + 16GB 3200MHz+ ddr4 ram.

 

[Saba'a]

Think I'll stick to current motherboard Ram and just add gpu and psu. Plus better cpu at a later stage.