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ponder

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Power Supply: Super Flower SF750 R1499 (Need to double-check dimensions)
Motherboard
: Gigabyte B450 I AORUS PRO WIFI R2499
Ram: G.skill Ripjaws 3600mhz R1689
CPU
: AMD Ryzen 3600 R3699
CPU Cooler:
Noctua NH-L12S R849
GPU:
1660 Super R3799 or 2060 R5499 (Full HD Resolution for gaming)
NVME:
Mushkin 1TB R2499
PSU: 750W is overkill unless you plan on stuffing a 2080ti into that small case, 550-600W is plenty.
MB: MSI generally has the better B450 boards (MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC) but you aint gonna find one so take what you can get m-itx wise. Might require bios flash for 3600
RAM: Google that ram with the cpu+mb to see if it will work at the rated 3600MHz
CPU: Fine
CPU Cooler: Double check to see if it will fit choosen case.
GPU: Have a look at 5600XT as well.
SSD: Fine.


R2279 - GIGABYTE B450 I AORUS PRO WIFI
R1479 - SilverStone SST-SX550 SFX 550W 80 Plus Gold Certified Non-Modular Black Desktop Power Supply Rebeltech has a modular 600W Corsair for R2319
R3679 - AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Processor, includes Raise the Game Bundle
 

stefan9

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Can you guys give me a decent spec for a laptop for photoshop. Mostly image editing,cutting images for websites,ect.
 

Varktjop

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You don't need anything spectacular for Photoshop. Core i5, 8GB memory and an SSD should do the trick
 

Barbarian Conan

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Can you guys give me a decent spec for a laptop for photoshop. Mostly image editing,cutting images for websites,ect.
This gives you an idea of desktop performance. I can't find anything about laptops. The later articles deal more with the TR level CPUs

And a more complete recommendation:
 

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This gives you an idea of desktop performance. I can't find anything about laptops. The later articles deal more with the TR level CPUs

And a more complete recommendation:
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Does Photoshop work better with Intel or AMD CPUs?
At the moment, Intel and AMD are pretty much tied at the high end (Intel Core i9 9900K vs AMD Ryzen 9 3900X), but AMD has a lead in the mid/low-end with their 3rd generations AMD Ryzen CPUs.
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If the user want's the best bang for buck they should look at the 3rd gen for photoshop, the R5 3600 or even the R7 3700.
The cheapest I5 is the 9400F but it's 6 cores, 6 threads and is 52% slower than the R5 3600 which is only R600 more roughly.
 

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Does Photoshop work better with Intel or AMD CPUs?
At the moment, Intel and AMD are pretty much tied at the high end (Intel Core i9 9900K vs AMD Ryzen 9 3900X), but AMD has a lead in the mid/low-end with their 3rd generations AMD Ryzen CPUs.
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If the user want's the best bang for buck they should look at the 3rd gen for photoshop, the R5 3600 or even the R7 3700.
The cheapest I5 is the 9400F but it's 6 cores, 6 threads and is 52% slower than the R5 3600 which is only R600 more roughly.
Yeah, for desktop use I would recommend AMD all day every day.
For laptops it isn't quite as clear cut. The Ryzen 3000 mobile CPUs are still Zen+, so effectively the same architecture as the desktop 2000 CPUs. The 4000 mobile series will be Zen 2, the same as the 3000 desktop CPUs.
While the 2000 series is still great for photoshop, they aren't the clear winner and the Ryzen laptop reviews I've seen made me rather want to get an Intel CPU in a laptop. That said, the Ryzen laptops are usually quite a bit cheaper.
 

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Yeah, for desktop use I would recommend AMD all day every day.
For laptops it isn't quite as clear cut. The Ryzen 3000 mobile CPUs are still Zen+, so effectively the same architecture as the desktop 2000 CPUs. The 4000 mobile series will be Zen 2, the same as the 3000 desktop CPUs.
While the 2000 series is still great for photoshop, they aren't the clear winner and the Ryzen laptop reviews I've seen made me rather want to get an Intel CPU in a laptop. That said, the Ryzen laptops are usually quite a bit cheaper.
Even the Zen+ archictecture beats the cheapest I5, well a 2600 is better in a lot of things over the i5 9400f at the same price point. But Ryzen laptops aren't cheap anyway.
 

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Even the Zen+ archictecture beats the cheapest I5, well a 2600 is better in a lot of things over the i5 9400f at the same price point. But Ryzen laptops aren't cheap anyway.
We probably won't get these locally but looks like the best bang for buck CPU atmo -

https://www.techspot.com/review/1977-amd-ryzen-1600-af/

For budget builders with access to the 1600 AF at $85, there is simply no better choice. As we said earlier, the Ryzen 5 2600 was already amazing value at $120. Thus, the 1600 AF which is basically the same CPU for a further discount is just an insane deal.
 

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Hi. I need to replace my main pc parts due to age and a possible 2 year old that knocked over the case. Mobo now just boot loops with everything disconnected. It is also about 8 years old so probably time for it to be replaced.

Current system:
CPU: i5 2500
Mobo: cheap MSI board (was all I could find quickly after the Gigabyte board failed the second time)
Ram: 2x 8GB DDR3 sticks (unknown brand)
GPU: RX570 8GB (got this end of last year when my GTX 960 failed after 4 years)
SSD: Crucial 250GB and some HDD's
Monitor: Old Samsung 24" 1080p

I am not looking to build a monster gaming machine that runs on 4k, a normal 1080p machine is all I need for now. This pc also doubles as my media pc, does downloads and runs PLEX. So gaming is only a small part of the use case.

Currently I am looking at a Ryzen 2600 cpu with a B450 motherboard (haven't picked a specific one yet, but will be a cheaper one probably). I think it is worth it to get a 250GB nvme drive for windows to replace my ssd as well, so support for nvme is required.

Other than that I am quite out of the loop with current pc tech. Can you guys please look at where I am headed and make some recommendations? I basically need a new mobo, cpu and ram, that will work well with the RX570 for 1080p gaming.

Thanks
 

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Hi. I need to replace my main pc parts due to age and a possible 2 year old that knocked over the case. Mobo now just boot loops with everything disconnected. It is also about 8 years old so probably time for it to be replaced.

Current system:
CPU: i5 2500
Mobo: cheap MSI board (was all I could find quickly after the Gigabyte board failed the second time)
Ram: 2x 8GB DDR3 sticks (unknown brand)
GPU: RX570 8GB (got this end of last year when my GTX 960 failed after 4 years)
SSD: Crucial 250GB and some HDD's
Monitor: Old Samsung 24" 1080p

I am not looking to build a monster gaming machine that runs on 4k, a normal 1080p machine is all I need for now. This pc also doubles as my media pc, does downloads and runs PLEX. So gaming is only a small part of the use case.

Currently I am looking at a Ryzen 2600 cpu with a B450 motherboard (haven't picked a specific one yet, but will be a cheaper one probably). I think it is worth it to get a 250GB nvme drive for windows to replace my ssd as well, so support for nvme is required.

Other than that I am quite out of the loop with current pc tech. Can you guys please look at where I am headed and make some recommendations? I basically need a new mobo, cpu and ram, that will work well with the RX570 for 1080p gaming.

Thanks
What size case do you have, ATX, mATX etc? Will influence MB choice.
Budget?
How old is your PSU? Make & model? Might want to get a new one if it's old.

EDIT:
R2199 - AMD YD1600BBAFBOX Ryzen 5 1600 (AF)
R2299 - MSI B450M MORTAR MAX
R1789 - G.Skill F4-3600C16D-16GVKC Ripjaws V 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3600MHz

The 'new' Ryzen 5 1600 (AF) performance is near identical to the 2600, it's the hottest budget CPU on the market.
What you save on the 2600 went into faster RAM and a very decent MB. Shout if you would prefer cheaper options here.
SSD https://www.wootware.co.za/sabrent-sb-rocket-256-rocket-256gb-m-2-2280-nvme-pci-e-3-0-solid-state-drive.html


 
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What size case do you have, ATX, mATX etc? Will influence MB choice.
Budget?
How old is your PSU? Make & model? Might want to get a new one if it's old.

EDIT:
R2199 - AMD YD1600BBAFBOX Ryzen 5 1600 (AF)
R2299 - MSI B450M MORTAR MAX
R1789 - G.Skill F4-3600C16D-16GVKC Ripjaws V 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3600MHz

The 'new' Ryzen 5 1600 (AF) performance is near identical to the 2600, it's the hottest budget CPU on the market.
What you save on the 2600 went into faster RAM and a very decent MB. Shout if you would prefer cheaper options here.
SSD https://www.wootware.co.za/sabrent-sb-rocket-256-rocket-256gb-m-2-2280-nvme-pci-e-3-0-solid-state-drive.html


Hi. Case is an Aerocool xpredator X1, which seems to be a mid tower case. It is pretty big so anything should fit.

PSU is only a few years old, it is a Seasonic S12 II bronze 550W. Should still be fine.

I don't really have a budget for this as I didn't plan on replacing it now. But the parts you have linked seem to be what I was expecting. Is it possible to go cheaper on the RAM? I read you want at least 3000 MHz with the Ryzen.

What will you lose out on a cheaper mobo?

That nvme drive looks fast. Thanks for the recommendations so far.

I will definitely go for the 1600 AF then.
 
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