The PC Build Thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
Neoprod said:
The base TDP of even the 12600k is 50W higher than the max power draw of a 12400 (I don't know offhand what a 12100 would use but I imagine it's even less).

If we listened to just Steve-type reviews, we'd come away with the impression there is no place in the market for a motherboard that can't feed a 12600k at minimum. But where does that leave people looking at the 12100 or 12400 class of CPU? Paying for over-spec'd motherboards.

It would be amazing if even the 2 grand entry-level boards ran a 12900k fine but that's not the case and Steve expecting it to is kinda silly, imo.
Click to expand...

If the manufacturer states their boards support a 125W part specifically mentioning the 125W wattage in their cpu support list then I expect them to deliver.
 
Neoprod said:
The base TDP of even the 12600k is 50W higher than the max power draw of a 12400 (I don't know offhand what a 12100 would use but I imagine it's even less).

If we listened to just Steve-type reviews, we'd come away with the impression there is no place in the market for a motherboard that can't feed a 12600k at minimum. But where does that leave people looking at the 12100 or 12400 class of CPU? Paying for over-spec'd motherboards.

It would be amazing if even the 2 grand entry-level boards ran a 12900k fine but that's not the case and Steve expecting it to is kinda silly, imo.
Click to expand...

Maybe for an i3 or something.

I haven't watched the video, so don't know what the problems are, but I suspect VRM temperature plays a role? How will it fare 6 months later on a 12400 when there's a layer of dust on the board and the ambient temp is a nice South African summer temperature? Will it impact boost performance then?

I would rather just spend a little bit more and get something that will definitely be good enough for the life of the CPU, and could possibly even handle an upgrade.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Yuu
Barbarian Conan said:
Maybe for an i3 or something.

I haven't watched the video, so don't know what the problems are, but I suspect VRM temperature plays a role? How will it fare 6 months later on a 12400 when there's a layer of dust on the board and the ambient temp is a nice South African summer temperature? Will it impact boost performance then?
Click to expand...

They were tested in a 21C room in a decent chassis with more fans than average joe would have, despite this you could boil water on some. The throttling happens with 65W non-K parts as well.
 
ponder said:
They were tested in a 21C room in a decent chassis with more fans than average joe would have, despite this you could boil water on some. The throttling happens with 65W non-K parts as well.
Click to expand...
So intel is now the one to use in winter got it.
 
Barbarian Conan said:
Maybe for an i3 or something.

I haven't watched the video, so don't know what the problems are, but I suspect VRM temperature plays a role? How will it fare 6 months later on a 12400 when there's a layer of dust on the board and the ambient temp is a nice South African summer temperature? Will it impact boost performance then?

I would rather just spend a little bit more and get something that will definitely be good enough for the life of the CPU, and could possibly even handle an upgrade.
Click to expand...

I only buy a new CPU every 7 to 8 years. I ALWAYS have to buy a new motherboard too, because I just cannot get the new CPU into the old board, regardless of the size of my shoehorn
 
deesef said:
I only buy a new CPU every 7 to 8 years. I ALWAYS have to buy a new motherboard too, because I just cannot get the new CPU into the old board, regardless of the size of my shoehorn
Click to expand...

I agree, you shouldn't buy a motherboard (or anything else) only for "in case I want to upgrade", but together with the rest of the points it is something worth considering. A bit more so if you are buying on the lower end.
 
Barbarian Conan said:
I agree, you shouldn't buy a motherboard (or anything else) only for "in case I want to upgrade", but together with the rest of the points it is something worth considering. A bit more so if you are buying on the lower end.
Click to expand...
Agreed. I buy a pc that should last at least 7 years, so the planning should ensure that;
- there is sufficient power to overcome greedy new software; and
- the quality of the components is good enough to last through the years.
 
any thoughts on the 3 different Scythe coolers available from Wootware?

I want to use this on a 12400.
Why I am considering an upgrade over the stock cooler:
My gaming PC is in my lounge.
My lounge has an internal combustion fireplace which makes the room nice and toasty in winter, and this is probably not the ideal environment for the stock cooler.



www.wootware.co.za

Scythe SCMG-5200 Mugen 5 Rev.C 120mm Black PWM Nickel-Plated Copper Single-Fan Premium High-End CPU Cooler

Buy Scythe SCMG-5200 Mugen 5 Rev.C 120mm Black PWM Nickel-Plated Copper Single-Fan Premium High-End CPU Cooler at Wootware with fast shipping & superb service.
www.wootware.co.za www.wootware.co.za
www.wootware.co.za

Scythe SCKTT-2100 Kotetsu Mark II Rev.B 120mm Black PWM Aluminium & Copper Single-Fan Premium High-End CPU Cooler

Buy Scythe SCKTT-2100 Kotetsu Mark II Rev.B 120mm Black PWM Aluminium & Copper Single-Fan Premium High-End CPU Cooler at Wootware with fast shipping & superb service.
www.wootware.co.za www.wootware.co.za
 
Thanks for all the input everyone - decided to rather go with the 12600k considering I basically upgrade only every 6 years so the extra performance now will help later down the line. Went Z690 for the same reason. So I get to build a new PC next week!

Do you think I can be lazy and not do a fresh windows install? Literally reformatted 3 weeks ago...
1649417124871.png
 
@Gtx Gaming is correct in that it could work. He is also advising a terrible practice.

You're moving to a completely new platform, new chipset, new architecture. Likely different sound controller, LAN controller, every other controller.

Do a fresh install. Doesn't take long and will prevent any manner of potential driver conflicts and instability.
 
UrBaN963 said:
@Gtx Gaming is correct in that it could work. He is also advising a terrible practice.

You're moving to a completely new platform, new chipset, new architecture. Likely different sound controller, LAN controller, every other controller.

Do a fresh install. Doesn't take long and will prevent any manner of potential driver conflicts and instability.
Click to expand...
Indeed nothing beats fresh install.
 
UrBaN963 said:
@Gtx Gaming is correct in that it could work. He is also advising a terrible practice.

You're moving to a completely new platform, new chipset, new architecture. Likely different sound controller, LAN controller, every other controller.

Do a fresh install. Doesn't take long and will prevent any manner of potential driver conflicts and instability.
Click to expand...

I built a chocolatey script to install the latest versions of all software I would use on my systems, stuff like Sublime text, VS Code, Steam, Epic, VLC etc. That, together with Onedrive backup makes subsequent reinstalls much less effort.
chocolatey.org

Chocolatey - The package manager for Windows

Chocolatey is software management automation for Windows that wraps installers, executables, zips, and scripts into compiled packages. Chocolatey integrates w/SCCM, Puppet, Chef, etc. Chocolatey is trusted by businesses to manage software deployments.
chocolatey.org chocolatey.org
 
Barbarian Conan said:
I built a chocolatey script to install the latest versions of all software I would use on my systems, stuff like Sublime text, VS Code, Steam, Epic, VLC etc. That, together with Onedrive backup makes subsequent reinstalls much less effort.
chocolatey.org

Chocolatey - The package manager for Windows

Chocolatey is software management automation for Windows that wraps installers, executables, zips, and scripts into compiled packages. Chocolatey integrates w/SCCM, Puppet, Chef, etc. Chocolatey is trusted by businesses to manage software deployments.
chocolatey.org chocolatey.org
Click to expand...
That's a pretty awesome solution actually. I'm going to steal it when I need a reinstall.
 
Barbarian Conan said:
I built a chocolatey script to install the latest versions of all software I would use on my systems, stuff like Sublime text, VS Code, Steam, Epic, VLC etc. That, together with Onedrive backup makes subsequent reinstalls much less effort.
chocolatey.org

Chocolatey - The package manager for Windows

Chocolatey is software management automation for Windows that wraps installers, executables, zips, and scripts into compiled packages. Chocolatey integrates w/SCCM, Puppet, Chef, etc. Chocolatey is trusted by businesses to manage software deployments.
chocolatey.org chocolatey.org
Click to expand...
What’s also super useful, if you only have 1 SSD, is 2 partitions.

Then on windows you can do something like this - https://www.windowscentral.com/how-move-default-user-folders-new-drive-windows-10
On Linux you just mount /home to the other drive/partition.

Sure, you still need to reinstall apps, but it makes a clean install much simpler as formatting the “boot” drive is a non issue as it only contains apps and no data.

Also use git to store your “dotfiles”
 
_kabal_ said:
any thoughts on the 3 different Scythe coolers available from Wootware?

I want to use this on a 12400.
Why I am considering an upgrade over the stock cooler:
My gaming PC is in my lounge.
My lounge has an internal combustion fireplace which makes the room nice and toasty in winter, and this is probably not the ideal environment for the stock cooler.



www.wootware.co.za

Scythe SCMG-5200 Mugen 5 Rev.C 120mm Black PWM Nickel-Plated Copper Single-Fan Premium High-End CPU Cooler

Buy Scythe SCMG-5200 Mugen 5 Rev.C 120mm Black PWM Nickel-Plated Copper Single-Fan Premium High-End CPU Cooler at Wootware with fast shipping & superb service.
www.wootware.co.za www.wootware.co.za
www.wootware.co.za

Scythe SCKTT-2100 Kotetsu Mark II Rev.B 120mm Black PWM Aluminium & Copper Single-Fan Premium High-End CPU Cooler

Buy Scythe SCKTT-2100 Kotetsu Mark II Rev.B 120mm Black PWM Aluminium & Copper Single-Fan Premium High-End CPU Cooler at Wootware with fast shipping & superb service.
www.wootware.co.za www.wootware.co.za
Click to expand...
Absolute unit of a cooler :D

After running Prime95 for 30 minutes, hwinfo64 is showing Core Temps Maximum 61C.
Idling at around 27/28C.

I don’t have any stock cooler numbers unfortunately

84D7351E-0250-4324-B9E2-774E069B0AB3.jpeg
AE1D8A4C-3707-4457-990B-7AB72706EAC2.jpeg
D52E78EA-0AE7-46E1-BAD9-F84C75BF1327.jpeg
 
Looks fantastic bru!

Except you need to clean the bottom, what kind of a pigpen are you keeping here?
 
_kabal_ said:
Absolute unit of a cooler :D

After running Prime95 for 30 minutes, hwinfo64 is showing Core Temps Maximum 61C.
Idling at around 27/28C.

I don’t have any stock cooler numbers unfortunately
Click to expand...
Beautiful , looks like the GPU just barely fit haha
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top
Sign up to the MyBroadband newsletter
X