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Gtx Gaming said:
Seems mine speed is fine if usb-c to usb-c, the adpater to usb-b seem be issues :(
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Those Orico units come with a USB-C to C cable and a USB-A to C cable.Have three of them and get excellent transfer speeds.Always had disconnect issues with Micro-B hence why I avoid them like the plague.
 
Lupus said:
By the way where did you get it from and cost? Want to look at updating my son's machine from his old 1600af,can't believe it's 3 years old already
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Wootware, it was R1899. It's one of the stronger designed entry-level boards. See some nice features like 4 RAM slots, custom VRM heatsinks, A-RGB and Full Resize Bar support. The CPU is a 5500 from Takealot @ 1999 and the RAM was on clearance for Transcend 3200mhz 8gb @ R400 each.

The other reason the system wasn't loading the BIOS is the DUAL Channel setup uses slots next to each other in alternate colours. Took me a while to figure that out.

I moved from a Core I5 2400 that lasted me 12 years which costed me the same as the current upgrade.
 
Hi guys

Wanted to ask about the new NVIDIA cards being worth it ? Seen some reviews on the new 4060Ti and 4070 not being worth the cost

Is AMD a better option looking at the 3070 mostly 1440p gaming but will also hook up to a 4K tv and game as well seems the 3070 can handle some 4K with DLSS

But also saw that the AMD RX 6800 XT which is around the same cost as a 3070 beats it significantly so for the future is it better to go AMD or is NVIDIA with their DLSS better for games in the future ?

Also saw someone saying the 8GB of VRAM could be an issue for the future ?
 
6800xt is beast in optimized games like warzone i was really impressed!

Thought then fireup bf2042 and just see how good dlss really works!

Overall high res DLSS is just plain better.
 
Wanted to ask about the new NVIDIA cards being worth it ? Seen some reviews on the new 4060Ti and 4070 not being worth the cost
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Since those cards haven't been released yet all we have are rumors and leaks but so far Nvidia isn't pulling any punches with the pricing so I am not expecting the 4070 and 4060ti to be affordable cards at all.
But it all kind of depends on your budget and if you want the most performance for your bucks or the new features.

William1102 said:
Is AMD a better option looking at the 3070 mostly 1440p gaming but will also hook up to a 4K tv and game as well seems the 3070 can handle some 4K with DLSS

But also saw that the AMD RX 6800 XT which is around the same cost as a 3070 beats it significantly so for the future is it better to go AMD or is NVIDIA with their DLSS better for games in the future ?

Also saw someone saying the 8GB of VRAM could be an issue for the future ?
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The 3070 would need DLSS to catch up to a 6800 XT running native 1440P.
Also double the VRAM, so you wouldn't need to turn down texture quality in future with the 6800 XT.

If they are close in price, personally I would take a 6800 XT over a 3070 any day unless you need specific Nvidia features like CUDA, tensor cores etc...
 
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Intox said:
Since those cards haven't been released yet all we have are rumors and leaks but so far Nvidia isn't pulling any punches with the pricing so I am not expecting the 4070 and 4060ti to be affordable cards at all.
But it all kind of depends on your budget and if you want the most performance for your bucks or the new features.



The 3070 would need DLSS to catch up to a 6800 XT running native 1440P.
Also double the VRAM, so you wouldn't need to turn down texture quality in future with the 6800 XT.

If they are close in price, personally I would take a 6800 XT over a 3070 any day unless you need specific Nvidia features like CUDA, tensor cores etc...
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Thanks it is close in price and wootware even has a recertified card cheaper than a 3070

Watched some reviews and the 6800 definitely beat the 3070 almost all times even when it didn’t it came close especially 4K where the 3070 struggles

I’ll only get the card in May so will have time to see what NVIDIA does but so far according to leaks AMD Still looks better

I mean is DLSS and their video AI upscaler that revolutionary ?

Also would a 6800 work well with an i5 13400 or would a Ryzen 5 7600X be better
 
William1102 said:
Also would a 6800 work well with an i5 13400 or would a Ryzen 5 7600X be better
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Will work fine on Intel or AMD platform.
I’ll only get the card in May so will have time to see what NVIDIA does but so far according to leaks AMD Still looks better
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Yep rumors and leaks saying we should see the 4070 in April and AMD will probably start marketing their next release after that.
 
Intox said:
Will work fine on Intel or AMD platform.

Yep rumors and leaks saying we should see the 4070 in April and AMD will probably start marketing their next release after that.
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Also considering the 4060TI is rumored to be only with 8GB vRAM AMD is looking better when considering cost and performance

6800 seems to be ideal at the moment and is on par with the 3080
 
Also with a 6800xt what cpu should I pair

Would be creating VMs so would need many cores minimum 6 but 8 would be great

What would the best bang for the buck CPU be at the moment
 
William1102 said:
Also with a 6800xt what cpu should I pair

Would be creating VMs so would need many cores minimum 6 but 8 would be great

What would the best bang for the buck CPU be at the moment
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Best bang for buck for 6 cores is still the 5600, but that is if you can find a decently priced AM4 board, you could look at the 7600, as the Intel CPUs aren't badly priced but their motherboards are.
 
William1102 said:
Also with a 6800xt what cpu should I pair

Would be creating VMs so would need many cores minimum 6 but 8 would be great

What would the best bang for the buck CPU be at the moment
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Best 'bang for buck' cpu for VMs would probably be the AM4 Ryzen 5500.. 6 recent zen cores for less than 2K zar in a really low power budget, I use it in my lab server at home to run VMs.
Not the best for gaming (due to smaller cache than 5600, and lacking PCIE gen 4 support) but still a good buy if all you care about is having a modern, low power 6 core CPU. (it is on par with the Ryzen 3600)
If you want 8 cores, I'd suggest a 5700X, but this is double the cost of the 5500 and you only get an extra 2 cores.
Otherwise, 5950X for density.

If all you care about is absolute rand per core on a modern architecture, Ryzen 5500 will win everytime.
The Ryzen 4500 deserves an honorable mention as it does support W11 and Server 2022, but just.. why?
Lowest-end AM5 CPU (7600) has a higher rand/core ratio than even the 5950X. :rolleyes:

Rand per core:
Ryzen 4500 - 275 RPC (6 cores, older Zen2 arch, don't buy)
Ryzen 5500 - 330 RPC (6 Cores) Great for lab only
Ryzen 5600 - 533 RPC (6 Cores) Great for lab+gaming
Ryzen 5700X - 550 RPC (8 Cores)
Ryzen 5900X - 658 RPC (12 Cores)
Ryzen 5950X - 687 RPC (16 Cores)
Ryzen 7600 - 858 RPC (6 cores, newer Zen4 arch, so expensive)

I am a big AMD advocate but I wont even entertain AM5 for a lab system, startup costs are too high and DDR5 memory is too expensive, but this will definitely change in the coming months.
 
Lupus said:
Best bang for buck for 6 cores is still the 5600, but that is if you can find a decently priced AM4 board, you could look at the 7600, as the Intel CPUs aren't badly priced but their motherboards are.
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I saw that will look around for an AM4 motherboard

B760 is like almost 5k for something good so that’s what I’m steering for AMD

But wouldn’t the i5 13400 be better than all of these or not ?

Will be pairing this with an RX6800
 
William1102 said:
I saw that will look around for an AM4 motherboard

B760 is like almost 5k for something good so that’s what I’m steering for AMD

But wouldn’t the i5 13400 be better than all of these or not ?

Will be pairing this with an RX6800
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Not at the price point, if it was over seas or you went with a b660 and ddr4 maybe
 
Faux_Grey said:
Best 'bang for buck' cpu for VMs would probably be the AM4 Ryzen 5500.. 6 recent zen cores for less than 2K zar in a really low power budget, I use it in my lab server at home to run VMs.
Not the best for gaming (due to smaller cache than 5600, and lacking PCIE gen 4 support) but still a good buy if all you care about is having a modern, low power 6 core CPU. (it is on par with the Ryzen 3600)
If you want 8 cores, I'd suggest a 5700X, but this is double the cost of the 5500 and you only get an extra 2 cores.
Otherwise, 5950X for density.

If all you care about is absolute rand per core on a modern architecture, Ryzen 5500 will win everytime.
The Ryzen 4500 deserves an honorable mention as it does support W11 and Server 2022, but just.. why?
Lowest-end AM5 CPU (7600) has a higher rand/core ratio than even the 5950X. :rolleyes:

Rand per core:
Ryzen 4500 - 275 RPC (6 cores, older Zen2 arch, don't buy)
Ryzen 5500 - 330 RPC (6 Cores) Great for lab only
Ryzen 5600 - 533 RPC (6 Cores) Great for lab+gaming
Ryzen 5700X - 550 RPC (8 Cores)
Ryzen 5900X - 658 RPC (12 Cores)
Ryzen 5950X - 687 RPC (16 Cores)
Ryzen 7600 - 858 RPC (6 cores, newer Zen4 arch, so expensive)

I am a big AMD advocate but I wont even entertain AM5 for a lab system, startup costs are too high and DDR5 memory is too expensive, but this will definitely change in the coming months.
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It’s annoying that AM4 looks good but there isn’t any good motherboards only ones with some basic features and IO

Unfortunately might have to skip AM4 as good as it is
 
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