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djbrendan said:
Mine hits 4.84Ghz, not 4.7Ghz stated on the amd website
Not complaining, trying to see why and how
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I think AMD may have changed how they advertise \ specify boost after the Ryzen 2 launch in 2019 when they got a lot of flak about CPU's not hitting the frequencies promised. There was the one video where the AMD engineer was saying CPUs would hit 4.8Ghz or something with their own boosting algorithm. People were not happy when early batches didn't even reach the advertised boost frequency let alone higher.

Think they learned to under-promise from that.
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
@sand_man I have a dedicated little Plex box that only has a i5-8400 in it's quite capable of serving enough transcoded streams. I have about 6 active friends and family members that stream remotely from my server quite often and never run into performance issues. If you still need to use the machine at the same time then it would be nice having some extra cores though.
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Is all the transcoding only on the CPU or would an APU work better for this?
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
For Plex just make sure you have the most modern Intel CPU with Quicksync. It doesn't need to be super high end, something like the 10600K would be more than enough, even the 10400K is fine as long as you're using hardware acceleration in Plex.

If you could wait a bit you could see what the 11th gen Intel CPUs bring to the table. They'll probably only be available in a few months time though.

I would try to avoid Evetech if you can.
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I would appreciate some insight into Plex transcoding. I have an i7 3770 that I am planning to upgrade to an AMD 5600x.

Is Intel favoured for Plex transcoding? If yes, what are the reasons for this?
 
Rouxenator said:
Is all the transcoding only on the CPU or would an APU work better for this?
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Plex's hardware acceleration uses Quicksync (Intel's iGPU) only - no other GPU's are supported. So with an APU, all transcoding would work off the CPU cores which would work like any other CPU (performance depends on how many concurrent clients there are and what's being transcoded).
 
Neoprod said:
Plex's hardware acceleration uses Quicksync (Intel's iGPU) only - no other GPU's are supported. So with an APU, all transcoding would work off the CPU cores which would work like any other CPU (performance depends on how many concurrent clients there are and what's being transcoded).
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Thanks for the explanation. Glad I don't Plex and instead only SMB/FTP with Kodi.
 
Neoprod said:
Plex's hardware acceleration uses Quicksync (Intel's iGPU) only - no other GPU's are supported. So with an APU, all transcoding would work off the CPU cores which would work like any other CPU (performance depends on how many concurrent clients there are and what's being transcoded).
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Nvidia works too, not just Intel.
 
Neoprod said:
Good to know...will check that out. I haven't seen my Plex server transcode anything in awhile (clients directplay) - it would be interesting to see what the usage is like.
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Nvidia has a limit thought, I think they upped it to 3 recently, unless you patch your driver.
 
deesef said:
I would appreciate some insight into Plex transcoding. I have an i7 3770 that I am planning to upgrade to an AMD 5600x.

Is Intel favoured for Plex transcoding? If yes, what are the reasons for this?
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Yes, QuickSync on Intel is pretty good for hardware encode/decode, at least on the newer generation of Intel chips. It's also supported across basically every platform.

There is a nice table here which breaks down the support on different platform: https://support.plex.tv/articles/115002178853-using-hardware-accelerated-streaming/#toc-5

It also works better across more platforms when you throw tonemapping into the mix: https://support.plex.tv/articles/hdr-to-sdr-tone-mapping/
 
Rouxenator said:
Is all the transcoding only on the CPU or would an APU work better for this?
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APU is generally a term for AMD CPUs with integrated GPUs. Hardware acceleration (GPU acceleration) works on AMD in Windows but not in Linux.

Hardware acceleration is also a paid feature in Plex, so you need a Plex Pass for it to work otherwise any transcoding will happen in CPU only.
 
Rouxenator said:
Thanks for the explanation. Glad I don't Plex and instead only SMB/FTP with Kodi.
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Plex and Kodi serve different use cases imo. Kodi is not a server/client architecture. Plex is designed for the server to do the heavy lifting and the clients to be able to run on basically anything.

You also don't need a lot of hardware for Plex if you're not planning on transcoding anything, once you start sharing with other people then that will be inevitable though as you won't have control over which clients the person on the other end uses or their internet speed.
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
Yes, QuickSync on Intel is pretty good for hardware encode/decode, at least on the newer generation of Intel chips. It's also supported across basically every platform.

There is a nice table here which breaks down the support on different platform: https://support.plex.tv/articles/115002178853-using-hardware-accelerated-streaming/#toc-5

It also works better across more platforms when you throw tonemapping into the mix: https://support.plex.tv/articles/hdr-to-sdr-tone-mapping/
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This is still somewhat confusing. This is what I am reading:
For hardware enabled transcoding, an Intel CPU (Sandybridge or later) is required. Transcoding works even better if the CPU supports QuickSync.

If QuickSync is not available, but a NVIDIA GPU is available, then transcoding takes place via the GPU. Some AMD GPUs may also support transcoding, but there are no guarantees in this regard.

It is not stated anywhere; What is the case if there is a NVIDIA GPU on a system with an AMD CPU? Will transcoding take place on the NVIDIA GPU, or will there only be software transcoding?
 
deesef said:
This is still somewhat confusing. This is what I am reading:
For hardware enabled transcoding, an Intel CPU (Sandybridge or later) is required. Transcoding works even better if the CPU supports QuickSync.
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You don't need an Intel CPU, as long as there is some supported GPU in the system then hardware acceleration will work. You only need an Intel CPU if you plan to use QuickSync.

deesef said:
If QuickSync is not available, but a NVIDIA GPU is available, then transcoding takes place via the GPU. Some AMD GPUs may also support transcoding, but there are no guarantees in this regard.
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Basically any modern-ish GPU from Nvidia or AMD will work for this purpose on Windows. AMD is not supported on Linux.

deesef said:
It is not stated anywhere; What is the case if there is a NVIDIA GPU on a system with an AMD CPU? Will transcoding take place on the NVIDIA GPU, or will there only be software transcoding?
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If you have an AMD CPU and Nvidia GPU it will use the Nvidia GPU.

All this is obviously dependent if your account has a Plex Pass and that the options are enabled in the settings.
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
You don't need an Intel CPU, as long as there is some supported GPU in the system then hardware acceleration will work. You only need an Intel CPU if you plan to use QuickSync.



Basically any modern-ish GPU from Nvidia or AMD will work for this purpose on Windows. AMD is not supported on Linux.



If you have an AMD CPU and Nvidia GPU it will use the Nvidia GPU.

All this is obviously dependent if your account has a Plex Pass and that the options are enabled in the settings.
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Thanks. As previously said, I have an i7 3770 that I want to update to an AMD 5660X. My current GPU is a Nvidia Geforce 1060 with 6 gig ram. I plan to keep the GPU for the foreseeable future.

I've had Plex pass for a long time already. It seems that my new PC will be ok in this regard.

Thanks again for your inputs.
 
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