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UrBaN963 said:
Agreed on the RTX, very difficult to tell the difference between high and ultra for me too. I usually adjust it based on FPS hit, but just about never run it at its highest.

I’m having far more fun with HDR than RTX recently, the difference can be quite brilliant.
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HDR does make a difference, when my Xbox turns on Auto HDR it looks great :-).
 
UrBaN963 said:
Agreed on the RTX, very difficult to tell the difference between high and ultra for me too. I usually adjust it based on FPS hit, but just about never run it at its highest.

I’m having far more fun with HDR than RTX recently, the difference can be quite brilliant.
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Yes when I installed the 3080 ti in my brothers pc I tested it on a 4k HDR sasmung 65nu7100 TV and must say HDR is amazing and that's not even a good HDR TV so imagine a good HDR TV. I can say DLSS on 4k is crazy good. I tested Call of duty modern warfare running a custom match and on max graphics got about 100FPS-110FPS but with DLSS on performance it almost felt to me that the image was in certain cases a bit better and framerate went up to 160-170FPS. HDR in that game was really good.

Game I tested was:

Metro exodus enhanced edition (mostly getting over 100FPS)
Modern warfare (170FPS dlss on performance)
Resident evil village (first scene about 110-125FPS with all max rtx on)
Cyberpunk 2077 (45FPS everything max rtx on psycho dlss performance)
Assetto Corsa Competizione (95FPS everything completely maxed on hot lap)

I would've loved to test more games but will test on our non hdr 4k tv tonight as my pc also rocking a 3080 ti although he had a 6700k will se how it compares to my 5800x today.

All I can say now is 4k hdr is crazy good. it makes the games feel like you playing something new. Having HDR and RTX on is just something else like in metro exodus the first level looks crazy good. Assetto corsa is at least for me one of the best looking racing games to date. Resident evil already looks jaw drooping to me on my 1440p and 4k hdr is just.... Don't know how to describe it.
 
saor said:
In the 8- 10k range I'm seeing Palit, EVGA Geforce, Zotac Geforce, MSI Geforce...suggested starting point for picking a brand or whatever makes these different? Again I'm not gaming and not that fussy about particular architectures and details - most gaming cards handle the CAD and 3d software I use quite alright so a decent gaming card will suffice.
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Is there much difference between these different brands or whatever they are? Palit, Zotac, MSI, EVGA etc? Are they all just rebranding the same hardware or how does this work?
 
saor said:
Is there much difference between these different brands or whatever they are? Palit, Zotac, MSI, EVGA etc? Are they all just rebranding the same hardware or how does this work?
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The big difference is cooling, so you will still want to read individual reviews.

They may or may not use components of different quality, but afaik all are good quality these days. I have had good results with the cheaper brands. My worst ever card was an XFX 8800GT.

Powercolor R9 290 - horribly loud fan, but still going after almost 8 years. Even used for some mining.
Zotac AMP Extreme 1080Ti - One of the highest if not the highest clocked 1080Ti on the market. 4 years later the one fan developed a very slightly noisy bearing (which I properly broke by "cleaning" it), but could still boost to 1950Mhz sustained (compared to 1582Mhz "stock" boost clock) with just 2 of the fans. Was also used for some mining.
 
saor said:
Is there much difference between these different brands or whatever they are? Palit, Zotac, MSI, EVGA etc? Are they all just rebranding the same hardware or how does this work?
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The chip inside the card is the same (not exactly the same due to how silicone lottery works). The only other thing is cooling and power delivery on the card but won't see a massive difference in performance when going with a lower powered card. You might end up buying the cheapest but it will clock higher than a more expensive card.
 
saor said:
Is there much difference between these different brands or whatever they are? Palit, Zotac, MSI, EVGA etc? Are they all just rebranding the same hardware or how does this work?
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Cooling is the main focus, everything else tends to be an effect of said cooling.
The difference between a cheap palit and an expensive EVGA might be a few Mhz, which will rarely translate to anything more than one or two extra frames per second at the most, hardly worth the server thousand rand that these cards seem to have between them in price.

The board partners do get their choice bids of 'binned' silicon, but again, rarely a great difference.

As far as my choice would go, I'd pickup whatever card happened to run the coolest, and quietest, if the price justifies it.

My Palit 3080 fans scream when under load because of the tiny cooler on a 300w card, I regret not getting another vendor, but the price difference was just not worth it.

The palit 3060 seems fine.
 
Ok, think I've settled on something like:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (AF)
MOBO: ASRock B450M Steel Legend AMD B450 Ryzen Socket AM4 Micro-ATX
GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SC
SSD: Mushkin -D8 Pilot-E 500GB 3D TLC NVMe
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4-3200MHz
PSU: Super Flower Leadex 750W
Still need to find a nice microATX case - open to suggestions else I'll ask wootware to suggest something.

Uncertainties:
* Are those Mushkin NVMe's ok? Else I'll stick to a regular Samsung SSD.
* If I was going to burn an extra R2000 on something - anything that sticks out as being an obvious thing to upgrade?
 
saor said:
Ok, think I've settled on something like:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (AF)
MOBO: ASRock B450M Steel Legend AMD B450 Ryzen Socket AM4 Micro-ATX
GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SC
SSD: Mushkin -D8 Pilot-E 500GB 3D TLC NVMe
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4-3200MHz
PSU: Super Flower Leadex 750W
Still need to find a nice microATX case - open to suggestions else I'll ask wootware to suggest something.

Uncertainties:
* Are those Mushkin NVMe's ok? Else I'll stick to a regular Samsung SSD.
* If I was going to burn an extra R2000 on something - anything that sticks out as being an obvious thing to upgrade?
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Is this like a workstation-y machine? I think your first post said as much.

I'd say get a more modern CPU, preferably with more physical cores but I don't think there are any that are within 2 grand of a 1600AF.
 
I would go 2x8GB, the 650w version of the PSU add that saving with the other 2k, eat noodles for a month and get a 3060 Ti:

Gainward GeForce RTX 3060 Ti GHOST Graphics Card, 8GB — Best Deals at Progenix — South Africa

The fans Keep stop rotation while you are experiencing the multimedia application or general workload. The fans start rotation while working on heavier loading such as gaming that the GPU temperature surpasses 60°C. The Advanced Fan Blade design increases
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Edit: Nevermind I see you're not gaming, I'd still get at least a 3060
 
Neoprod said:
Is this like a workstation-y machine? I think your first post said as much.

I'd say get a more modern CPU, preferably with more physical cores but I don't think there are any that are within 2 grand of a 1600AF.
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Yeah. 3d work, CAD, video editing. Use a lot of different software so GPU, CPU, RAM are all kind of important in different areas although my feeling is that for the video work especially I'd probably benefit more from CPU & RAM. I'm not doing super specialized work where I need crazy specific GPU requirements. A generally modern PC seems to handle most tasks fine. Was even leaning toward a cheaper GPU (GTX 1650)at one point and upping the CPU
 
Neoprod said:
You should look at the 10700 or 11700 (non K versions) and a B560 motherboard.
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My crude understanding was that AMD was generally better value for money at the lower price ranges. I have no attachment to either option so happy to consider intel if I'm getting better value from a 10700 vs a Ryzen in a similiar price range. Will look thanks.
 
saor said:
My crude understanding was that AMD was generally better value for money at the lower price ranges. I have no attachment to either option so happy to consider intel if I'm getting better value from a 10700 vs a Ryzen in a similiar price range. Will look thanks.
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The key word there is was.

At the moment Intel offers better value on the low end, and AMD is best when it comes to top performance. I'm not sure how intel does on the low end when it comes to productivity, but it is decent for gaming.
The Intel based motherboards seem to be a bit more hit and miss, so some research is required.
No good easy CPU comparison sites. I would look at techspot/hardware unboxed for reviews. They have a good mix of productivity and gaming benchmarks.
Definitely NOT userbenchmark. They are heavily single threaded and Intel biased.

As for the Mushkin NVMe's. They are an old RAM company, and I run one of their Pilot NVMe's and an older Reactor SATA SSD. No issues with either of them yet.
 
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