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Herr der Verboten said:
% cut do you expect? Also what about rising inflation? 15k cards going 5k?
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I think this is what's getting to me to a point with the current prices, they're dropping, whilst everything else is rising, yes there are the issues with excess inventory, but will that be like everything else, a problem that's actually a problem for the consumers?

I'm also seriously considering waiting until the new gen processors and GPU's hit the shelfs, but again, at what price?
 
Herr der Verboten said:
% cut do you expect? Also what about rising inflation? 15k cards going 5k?
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Since this was the biggest mining boom yet, coupled with ETH merge and oversupply.
On new high end stock there is still a lot of room for movement, like the 6900 XT locally that's still a 20K GPU but in the US, prices have cratered, 6900 XT now sits in stock for days on end @ $699 ( ZAR 14603 Including customs and delivery).
My expectation is that on the top end cards like the 20K+ 6900XT, there could be least 30% price reduction.
6700XT also has decent room to move, they are already dipping below $400 in the US with rebates

The used market is the real unknown of how low can it go, it is estimated that Ethereum miners spent $15 billion on GPUs in the last two years, the only spanner in the works is how big was the mining boom here in SA, will we see enough second hand market flooding that the discount vs buying new will be worth it?
Right now it's not a very big discount, 7.5K for a used 3060ti vs 8.7K for a new 3060ti, so my guess would be 3060tis for 6K after the merge could be on the cards.

if new 3080s drop to 12-13K then a used one after the merge for 8-9K could also be on the cards.
Our market is not huge so I am not expecting that we will see 15K cards go for 5K but 8K for a used 3080 that could be in the realm of possibility.
So buying a new 6800 for 10K now vs maybe being able to get a used 3080 for 8K in 2 months that's a gamble I am willing to take.

Also even if prices don't reach my strike point, AMD already confirmed at least 50% perf per watt on RDNA 3, so I will then rather wait until next year and grab the RDNA 3, 60XT class card which should see performance matching or exceeding a 6800 XT.
Looking at how AMD priced the next gen CPUs, they didn't raise prices again like they did with the Ryzen 5000 series.
My guess is that the x50 refresh AMD did that increased prices already was preparing consumers for how they might want to price the next gen midrange cards.
 
Tjoker said:
Comparing the different benchmark tools and my actual use case scenarios, the temps are about 10C lower for a couple of hours and very very stable with this board and my old RAM, compared to DDR5 board and the RAM I had. I'll play and tweak a bit more. Not sure if I should make a separate thread for any interest, or suggestions?

I will push the P-Core up to 5.2GHz, and see how it goes in my day-to-day...I'm happy if the temps can stay high 85-93C.
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Very old post, but I think I found a solution to my thermal throttling issue.....

Does anyone have more info, or maybe installed one of these CPU Contact Frames for LGA 1700?


 
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So i'm doing an upgrade to a PC for a relative and the very old SATA-1 HDD from 2006 is threatening to kick the bucket any time now. I will be replacing that part in the next week or so, but wanted to get some input on best tools to use to clone his current drive to the new drive so that I dont need to reinstall Windows and all his applications. Any recommendations?
 
Markd said:
So i'm doing an upgrade to a PC for a relative and the very old SATA-1 HDD from 2006 is threatening to kick the bucket any time now. I will be replacing that part in the next week or so, but wanted to get some input on best tools to use to clone his current drive to the new drive so that I dont need to reinstall Windows and all his applications. Any recommendations?
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I used to use norton ghost but that is like saying you should play duke3d :laugh:
 
Markd said:
So i'm doing an upgrade to a PC for a relative and the very old SATA-1 HDD from 2006 is threatening to kick the bucket any time now. I will be replacing that part in the next week or so, but wanted to get some input on best tools to use to clone his current drive to the new drive so that I dont need to reinstall Windows and all his applications. Any recommendations?
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What OS is that running? DOS 3.3???

PS: I normally use Paragon to clone / backup disks.
 
deesef said:
What OS is that running? DOS 3.3???
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lol Win 10, but takes a good 10 minutes for the drive to quieten down and be ready for actual use. The SMART indicators are saying the spinup time is some astronomical number....something like 30 million ms. And because of that Ive had to disable SMART checks in the BIOS to prevent it from failing to boot. Its just time for a little upgrade here haha. Looks like a program called Macrium is the current standard for cloning drives. Will give that a go.
 
Intox said:
Since this was the biggest mining boom yet, coupled with ETH merge and oversupply.
On new high end stock there is still a lot of room for movement, like the 6900 XT locally that's still a 20K GPU but in the US, prices have cratered, 6900 XT now sits in stock for days on end @ $699 ( ZAR 14603 Including customs and delivery).
My expectation is that on the top end cards like the 20K+ 6900XT, there could be least 30% price reduction.
6700XT also has decent room to move, they are already dipping below $400 in the US with rebates

The used market is the real unknown of how low can it go, it is estimated that Ethereum miners spent $15 billion on GPUs in the last two years, the only spanner in the works is how big was the mining boom here in SA, will we see enough second hand market flooding that the discount vs buying new will be worth it?
Right now it's not a very big discount, 7.5K for a used 3060ti vs 8.7K for a new 3060ti, so my guess would be 3060tis for 6K after the merge could be on the cards.

if new 3080s drop to 12-13K then a used one after the merge for 8-9K could also be on the cards.
Our market is not huge so I am not expecting that we will see 15K cards go for 5K but 8K for a used 3080 that could be in the realm of possibility.
So buying a new 6800 for 10K now vs maybe being able to get a used 3080 for 8K in 2 months that's a gamble I am willing to take.

Also even if prices don't reach my strike point, AMD already confirmed at least 50% perf per watt on RDNA 3, so I will then rather wait until next year and grab the RDNA 3, 60XT class card which should see performance matching or exceeding a 6800 XT.
Looking at how AMD priced the next gen CPUs, they didn't raise prices again like they did with the Ryzen 5000 series.
My guess is that the x50 refresh AMD did that increased prices already was preparing consumers for how they might want to price the next gen midrange cards.
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They also need find solution to RTX and DLSS, its much pretty much unmatched from nvidia side atm. We all know RTX 4090 just going be bonkers fast and require a nuclear reactor to power :P
 
Markd said:
lol Win 10, but takes a good 10 minutes for the drive to quieten down and be ready for actual use. The SMART indicators are saying the spinup time is some astronomical number....something like 30 million ms. And because of that Ive had to disable SMART checks in the BIOS to prevent it from failing to boot. Its just time for a little upgrade here haha. Looks like a program called Macrium is the current standard for cloning drives. Will give that a go.
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You may not be able to clone that.
 
So my SSD arrived this morning.

So tips on least effort, getting Windows and my software on to the SSD. Old HDD will be going into an adapter and replacing the DVD ROM drive.
 
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elf_lord_ZC5 said:
So my SSD arrived this morning.

So tips on least effort, getting Windows and my software on to the SSD. Old HDD will be going into an adapter and replacing the DVD ROM drive.
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If you bought a samsung ssd, it comes software for cloning. Samsung magic works wonders, but only support samsung ssd
 
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