"The Pill" - How effective is it?

[Pyro]

My gf is on Jasmine which she takes to balance out hormones, but it serves as a contraceptive too It's pretty effective but she has to take it as directed and not miss any. She just sets reminders on her phone when it's time to take the next one.

As in Yasmin? Isn't that just 1 a day? How hard is that to remember?

 

[Smooth Criminal]

As in Yasmin? Isn't that just 1 a day? How hard is that to remember?

It's possible that I may have got the spelling wrong, but it's definitely not a 1 day thing. The package lists the days under each pill.

 

[BTTB]

yes the pill is made up of oestrogen and that is what is low during your period so by taking the pill you just boose your oestrogen level. it's not going to be so exceptionally high that it would effect a baby if you were to fall pregnant.

But this is just what I put into question.

Not to worry. Best contraceptive is still abstinence.
Here is a little bit of humour about the word CELEBATE ..

A young monk arrives at the monastery. He is assigned to helping the other monks in copying the old canons and laws of the church by hand.

He notices, however, that all of the monks are copying from copies, not from the original manuscript. So, the new monk goes to the head abbot to question this, pointing out that if someone made even a small error in the first copy, it would never be picked up! In fact, that error would be continued in all of the subsequent copies.

The head monk, says, 'We have been copying from the copies for centuries, but you make a good point, my son.'

He goes down into the dark caves underneath the monastery where the original manuscripts are held as archives in a locked vault that hasn't been opened for hundreds of years.

Hours go by and nobody sees the old abbot . . .

So,the young monk gets worried and goes down to look for him. He sees him banging his head against the wall and wailing.

'We missed the R !

We missed the R !

We missed the R !'

His forehead is all bloody and bruised and he is crying uncontrollably.
The young monk asks the old abbot, 'What's wrong, father?'
With a choking voice, the old abbot replies, 'The word was...

'CELEBRATE'!!!

 

[killadoob]

I highly doubt that the pill is making men gay, why is there gay activity in dolphins? they do not take any kinda birth control tablets

Being gay cannot be explained i think and can happen to anyone, hmmm although i dunno actually i doubt it's the pill .

 

[Peder]

Its more "accepted" to be gay in our modern society (not that i would say many are very modern)

So yeah i think thats the cause...

I doubt it is the pill and even if it were uhm... you would find more men with woman parts...

 

[waynegohl]

Its more "accepted" to be gay in our modern society (not that i would say many are very modern)

So yeah i think thats the cause...

I doubt it is the pill and even if it were uhm... you would find more men with woman parts...

rofl

i like this part.


*heya ou Pedertjie*

 

[Serqet]

there is no proof to suggest the pill has any long term effects. doctors do advise however to not be on the pill for longer than 10 years as they suspect it may cause infertility.

a person isn't born gay because their mom took the pill. that's just silly

 

[Byakuya]

Thanks for all the info people, it really made me relax. Now It is just a wait.

 

[Kilgore_Trout_Redux]

Pregnancy scare? Good luck...

 

[Arthur]

The Pill is very effective ... at destroying fidelity, families, society, and civilisation. Its long-term effects on women are unknown, but increasingly hormone-based contraceptives are being linked with increased cancer risk (link, another link).

Because so much is at stake in this debate, it's very hard to get the facts. But think for yourself: a woman's body - the most complex hormonal system in the known universe (about 8 times as many hormones as males), and exquisitely tuned - is doused with chemicals and synthesised hormones. Every day. I could never put the woman I love through that.

This from a recent Canadian report on parliamentary ongoings:

Maurice Vellacott, MP for Saskatoon-Wanuskewin, upbraided the Canadian Cancer Society for withholding information about the link between hormonal contraception and cancer. Vellacott said, “If the Canadian Cancer Society is not telling Canadians the truth about the birth control pill’s link to breast cancer, what else is the Canadian Cancer Society withholding?”

In 2003, Oxford University researchers found a link between the pill and cervical cancer.
Researchers from Cancer Research UK's epidemiology unit in Oxford reviewed 28 studies and found that the longer a woman took the pill, the greater her risk of developing cervical cancer. They found a 10% increased risk for women taking the pill for 5 years or less, 60% for 5 to 9 years' use, and 100% greater risk (i.e. double the risk of a non-pill-using woman) if they had taken it for at least 10 years.

Vellacott’s comments came in an interview with the CBC’s Wendy Mesley’s documentary, “Chasing the Cancer Answer” which aired recently on CBC’s Marketplace.

The program also quotes Pathologist Dr. Samuel Epstein, a professor at the University of Chicago and author of the book, Cancer-Gate: How to win the losing cancer war. Epstein also criticized the Canadian Cancer Society saying Canada is in a “cancer epidemic.”

Epstein said, “The pill is the largest unregulated human trial that’s ever been conducted.”

In July 2005 The World Health Organization said that the birth control pill is carcinogenic and is associated with increases in cervical, liver and breast cancer.

“In the interests of women, I hope the Canadian Cancer Society will also take a look at another risk factor for breast cancer, and a preventable one at that,” Vellacott said. “Induced abortion.”

The hormonal birth control pill has also been associated in some studies with prostate cancer in the male children of women who take it. Scientists at the University of Missouri in Columbia, Missouri found that estrogen-like hormones deform the prostates in developing embryos, which can be a precursor to developing prostate cancer or bladder problems.

Vellacott said, “Why will the Canadian Cancer Society not take an objective look at what the research says about the link between abortion and breast cancer if they’re serious about prevention?”

Dr. Epstein accused the cancer establishment of “damage control” (screening, diagnosis, treatment) rather than prevention.

Other (independent) news you don't see in the MSM:
Women sue birth-control makers

Not for the first time, the manufacturers of the Ortho Evra contraceptive patch are facing two new lawsuits in which plaintiffs say the patch has caused serious illnesses and death. 43 women are suing Ortho-McNeil Pharmaceutical, Inc., a division of Johnson and Johnson Inc. after one woman died of blood clots.

The suits have been filed in the San Francisco Superior Court and allege that the company failed to sufficiently investigate possible problems, and deliberately deceived the public as to the severity of the possible side effects.

Medical reports continue to show that the risk of developing blood clots, pulmonary embolism, heart attack and stroke may be significantly higher with the Ortho Evra patch than with other hormonal contraceptives.

The patch, approved by the US Food and Drug Administration in 2001, delivers the hormones estrogen and progestin directly into the bloodstream through the skin.

The company is facing approximately 400 similar lawsuits in the US related to the medical dangers of the hormonal contraceptive patch. As of July 2005, at least 23 women had died from side effects of the patch. Lawsuits have also been launched in Canada.

Federal drug safety reports obtained by The Associated Press under a Freedom of Information Act request, "indicate that in 2004 -- when 800,000 women were on the patch -- the risk of dying or suffering a survivable blood clot while using the device was about three times higher than while using birth control pills."

A new study shows a strong correlation between the use of "the pill" and an increased cervical cancer risk.

The study, which was conducted by researchers at Oxford University and appears in the current edition of The Lancet, reviewed twenty-four studies examining the cases of more than 50,000 women. It concluded that women using oral contraceptives double their risk of cervical cancer, and that the increased risk lasts for ten years after cessation of use. The study also found that the longer the pill is used, the greater the risk.

The results of the study match others that have found an increased risk of both cervical cancer and breast cancer in women who use oral contraceptives, including several that have appeared in The Lancet. A European study earlier this year also found an increased risk for heart disease, even after women stop taking the medication.

 

[Serqet]

One of the biggest questions has been whether the pill increases the risk of breast cancer in past and current pill users.

An international study published in the September 1996 Journal Contraception concluded that women's risk of breast cancer 10 years after going off birth control pills was no higher than that of women who had never used the pill. During pill use and for the first 10 years after stopping the pill, women's risk of breast cancer was only slightly higher in pill users than non-pill users.

Adapted from the United States Office on Women's Health in the Department of Health and Human Services.

You forget they also thought for a time that tomato skin caused cancer. Truth be told they just don't know.

 

[noxibox]

If you're going to be using this form of contraceptive for extended periods you should consider other options like the injection.

It gives women mood swings and behavioral changes I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

How does this distinguish them from women not on the pill?

 

[Pyro]

It's possible that I may have got the spelling wrong, but it's definitely not a 1 day thing. The package lists the days under each pill.

Yes - that's what I said - 1 pill a day, so you wake up, chomp a pill. Not exactly hard to remember.

 

[blunomore]

Unless the men on the forum are all medical practitioners, I fail to see how you can claim to have so much knowledge about a distinctly feminine issue.

I mean, FFS, every man and his dog here has an opinion about it! If you have not used it (and I seriously doubt the men have ), maybe you should listen to what the females have to say. They ought to know.

 

[Serqet]

And trust me it does get difficult to remember to take it on some days as you get busy or caught up with something and the pill slips your mind. So i also have a reminder on my phone in case i forget.

 

[DJ...]

And trust me it does get difficult to remember to take it on some days as you get busy or caught up with something and the pill slips your mind. So i also have a reminder on my phone in case i forget.

That and having to take it at the same time every day as well. So I hear.

Unless the men on the forum are all medical practitioners, I fail to see how you can claim to have so much knowledge about a distinctly feminine issue.

Hey blu - some men have no qualms discussing the pill with their SUs and in the process learn a little something about it - many men are well aware of the pill's affects and if some are sprouting absolute nonsense then why not correct them instead of attempting to silence all men for whatever bizarre reason known only to you...

 

[Serqet]

yip you have to take it around the same time every day otherwise it loses its effectiveness.

 

[DJ...]

yip you have to take it around the same time every day otherwise it loses its effectiveness.

What I've never quite understood is how it doesn't form a part of one's routine? Such as a morning routine where personally I find it impossible to shower without brushing my teeth as an example. They even add the placebos so that there are no gaps, ensuring it becomes habitual, or part of a routine...

 

[Serqet]

Well you see it depends what time you first start it. I started mine at around 9:30 so now i'm at work by the time i need to take it and depending on how busy work is i sometimes forget. It would be better to start it when you first wake up and have your first cup of coffee etc. Would definitely make it easier to remember you're right.

 

[diamondstar]

I could never get the timing right when taking the pill, either that or I forgot...thats why I changed to an alternative method, which suits me better.