The problem with uncapped mindset in SA

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calvincoetzee

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I think the biggest problem we are going to face with uncapped is that certain individuals are going to view uncapped as an oppertunity to run their torrents the entire day and night, 24/7.

I don't think uncapped should be viewed like that, and that's why we have fair usage policies, not only here but also overseas, some mentioned comcast 250Gb limit, also limits like that exist all over the world.

Lets face it, 200Gb is a lot of data, sure on a 4mbit you can transfer roughly 1Tb per month but then how can we expect 1Tb for R500, it's not reasonable.

The mind set should change, once people start viewing uncapped as a welcome addition to our country where as we can browse, stream youtube and download a bit more often than we are used to.

I think 50Gb is fair usage on an uncapped line, some users may use 100Gb or 200Gb but going more than that I would consider abuse of the system.
I am a heavy user, I do download a lot and make use of the internet, I'd probably only use 50Gb at most anyways.

Uncapped is an eat all you like offer but that does not mean you have to stuff your face 24/7, eat when you need too and enjoy as much as you like. Therefore a fair usage policy is fair, if everyone is going to download 24/7 the network will cripple.

What are your thoughts on this? Is a 200Gb such as that from afrihost a reasonable fair usage limit?
Mweb Bussiness uncapped 4mbit for R3000 in the past have always had a 100Gb limit, then 128kbit rate limit if you read the T&C, it's nothing new.
 
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Agreed with your post totally. 200Gb is a reasonable, and fair usage limit. Comcast do offer 250Gb's on their system - I have personally asked Comcast users to verify that, and it's also in Comcast's T&C's.

Uncapped means there is no cap on the line - as long as you adhere to the T&C and fair usage policies.
 
Rodent-Boy said:
The question is not whether 200GB is fair, but whether 200GB is "uncapped." And the short answer is, no.
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The problem is not that you will get cut off for doing 200GB in a month, because you won't. The problem doing 200GB in 5 days, increasing the load on the network and adversely affecting other users. There is a difference, and the OP is right - there is a sense of entitlement in this country and it traverses gender and race.
 
Rodent-Boy said:
The question is not whether 200GB is fair, but whether 200GB is "uncapped." And the short answer is, no.
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Not another leecher. :rolleyes:

Listen, if you want an unlimited, unshaped, uncapped line, do get a Diginet line willya? Then you can download 24x7 to your heart's content without silly and restrictive T&C's coming in your way.
 
Rodent-Boy said:
The question is not whether 200GB is fair, but whether 200GB is "uncapped." And the short answer is, no.
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But it's not a 200Gb cap, all they are saying is that if you do use more than 200Gb they have a right to deactivate the service. I'm sure if you download 250Gb they aren't going to stop your access but they might do so if you constantly go over their fair usage.
 
Then why doesn't Comcast call it what it is? A 250 Gb capped product?

If they are going to enforce a limit at 250 Gb... then it is not really uncapped now is it?

All we are asking is that the ISPs just be honest with their product descriptions. Is that so hard?
 
Anonymous_Coward said:
Not another leecher. :rolleyes:

Listen, if you want an unlimited, unshaped, uncapped line, do get a Diginet line willya? Then you can download 24x7 to your heart's content without silly and restrictive T&C's coming in your way.
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I never said that I want to download more than 200GB, did I? We're talking definitions here. Will I use anything like 200GB per month? I honestly cannot see myself doing so, not consistently anyway. But that doesn't change the fact that "uncapped" means that there is no cap. Yes, I know that they're not saying 200GB and you're offline. But they are saying that they will cut you off at some point, and the moment they do that it means that you have exceeded your cap.
 
Garyvdh said:
All we are asking is that the ISPs just be honest with their product descriptions. Is that so hard?
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I guess the only problem here is that they're not saying they WILL cut you off at 200GB, so they can't really call it a 200GB account. Still, they shouldn't really call it uncapped either, should they?
 
Garyvdh said:
Then why doesn't Comcast call it what it is? A 250 Gb capped product?

If they are going to enforce a limit at 250 Gb... then it is not really uncapped now is it?

All we are asking is that the ISPs just be honest with their product descriptions. Is that so hard?
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Then use somebody who is more honest about it, I'm sure that WA will oblige :P

A few months ago we would have killed for a 200GB cap, and now that it's here, we moan about the use of the term uncapped.
 
calvincoetzee said:
But it's not a 200Gb cap, all they are saying is that if you do use more than 200Gb they have a right to deactivate the service. I'm sure if you download 250Gb they aren't going to stop your access but they might do so if you constantly go over their fair usage.
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i kinda think they should make it a weighted average, i.e:

1st Month: 250 GB
2nd Month: 500 GB
3rd Month: 20GB
4th Month: 35GB

thus, the avg is +- 200GB a month, but you did 500GB in one month.
 
Garyvdh said:
Then why doesn't Comcast call it what it is? A 250 Gb capped product?

If they are going to enforce a limit at 250 Gb... then it is not really uncapped now is it?

All we are asking is that the ISPs just be honest with their product descriptions. Is that so hard?
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Eh Comcast does.
They USED to have an uncapped product but people abused the service.
 
Oh do stop moaning about the term uncapped and be glad Mweb et al is doing something about the high cost of bandwidth in SA.

It seems that you want to go back to the dark old ways of 56k dial-up internet... sheesh.

Maybe SEACOM et al can remove their cables as you lot quibble over small things instead of being supportive of Mweb, Afrihost etc...

Otherwise, take a nice cup of STFU and enjoy the cheaper bandwidth.
 
Rodent-Boy said:
I guess the only problem here is that they're not saying they WILL cut you off at 200GB, so they can't really call it a 200GB account. Still, they shouldn't really call it uncapped either, should they?
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It's about honesty. Every Advertiser loves to make out that his product is actually better than it really is. so they use fancy terms and appealing descriptions to inflate their product.

In this case they are taking a limited product and marketing it as unlimited. Or in other terms... they are telling a lie.
 
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