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mercurial said:
Lol, dude, that is the nature of any sport. You can't say it's luck. Sometimes the poor balls get wickets. It's not luck. Batsmen make poor decisions and are often set up with poor deliveries, to tempt them into hitting a big shot and mis-hitting it.
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But that is exactly it. It is luck. I was not a great ball and surely we did not set them up with a poor ball. I can not imagen the bowler bowling 4 good deliveries then thinking:" Let me bowl him a long hop" :p

Point being whatever you call it, last night we were on the right end of it.
 
Devill said:
But that is exactly it. It is luck. I was not a great ball and surely we did not set them up with a poor ball. I can not imagen the bowler bowling 4 good deliveries then thinking:" Let me bowl him a long hop" :p

Point being whatever you call it, last night we were on the right end of it.
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Yes, it's amazing how the **** stick has 2 ends.
 
Devill said:
But that is exactly it. It is luck. I was not a great ball and surely we did not set them up with a poor ball. I can not imagen the bowler bowling 4 good deliveries then thinking:" Let me bowl him a long hop" :p

Point being whatever you call it, last night we were on the right end of it.
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Sigh. You clearly don't know the ins and outs of cricket. People set up batsmen all the time. If you can't realise that, then there's no point in continuing this conversation.
 
mercurial said:
Sigh. You clearly don't know the ins and outs of cricket. People set up batsmen all the time. If you can't realise that, then there's no point in continuing this conversation.
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Only the bowler will know if it was on purpose or not, im guessing it wasnt
 
rakabos3 said:
Only the bowler will know if it was on purpose or not, im guessing it wasnt
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Bowlers discuss tactics towards certain batsmen with the captain. They even have strategy sessions where the entire team discusses this. They analyse videos and statistics before every tour. Yes, sometimes they try stuff and it doesn't work but other times, they do. You need to know the batsman's particular weaknesses. Example, Afridi likes to smash, so it is easy to set him up with a rank long hop and hope he miscues it. That's what got his wicket yesterday.
 
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mercurial said:
Sigh. You clearly don't know the ins and outs of cricket. People set up batsmen all the time. If you can't realise that, then there's no point in continuing this conversation.
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I think the point is that the team was "lucky" to win. to lose 6 wickets for 19 runs in those circumstances is generally unheard of and very rare, hence why it's being considered lucky.
 
Wall said:
I think the point is that the team was "lucky" to win. to lose 6 wickets for 19 runs in those circumstances is generally unheard of and very rare, hence why it's being considered lucky.
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U mean dodgy
 
Wall said:
I think the point is that the team was "lucky" to win. to lose 6 wickets for 19 runs in those circumstances is generally unheard of and very rare, hence why it's being considered lucky.
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I suppose in that sense, yes, I can see what you mean.
 
mercurial said:
Sigh. You clearly don't know the ins and outs of cricket. People set up batsmen all the time. If you can't realise that, then there's no point in continuing this conversation.
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Played enough cricket in my life and I promise you I know the ins and outs. Setting up a batsman would be driving him back with a short ball and then bowling a fuller delivery (sometimes refered to as a yorker - look at me throwing these cricketing terms around willy nilly) so as to keep the batsman from moving his feet and getting a good stride in. Also this negates the trigger movement of some batsmen.

mercurial said:
Bowlers discuss tactics towards certain batsmen with the captain. They even have strategy sessions where the entire team discusses this. They analyse videos and statistics before every tour. Yes, sometimes they try stuff and it doesn't work but other times, they do. You need to know the batsman's particular weaknesses. Example, Afridi likes to smash, so it is easy to set him up with a rank long hop and hope he miscues it. That's what got his wicket yesterday.
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The Afridi wicket might have made sense had we 60 odd runs on the board. We had 17 odd, Tahir bowled a long hop, he was lucky Afridi miss timed the shot. Simple as that. Poor shot as I am sure even Martin Martin could have put that away. (Ps for incase you are wondering Chris martin is a NZ fast bowler, often labelled one of the few real no 11s left in world cricket, when he was still playing international cricket, due to his really lacking batting talent).

Agree or disagree, I do not really care. Different opinions makes the world go round.
 
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Devill said:
Played enough cricket in my life and I promise you I know the ins and outs. Setting up a batsman would be driving him back with a short ball and then bowling a fuller delivery (sometimes refered to as a yorker - look at me throwing these cricketing terms around willy nilly) so as to keep the batsman from moving his feet and getting a good stride in. Also this negates the trigger movement of some batsmen.



The Afridi wicket might have made sense had we 60 odd runs on the board. We had 17 odd, Tahir bowled a long hop, he was lucky Afridi miss timed the shot. Simple as that. Poor shot as I am sure even Martin Martin could have put that away. (Ps for incase you are wondering Chris martin is a NZ fast bowler, often labelled one of the few real no 11s left in world cricket, when he was still playing international cricket, due to his really lacking batting talent).

Agree or disagree, I do not really care. Different opinions makes the world go round.
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See, you see it as risky, given that SA had few runs to play with, I see it as SA had no chance but to try and take wickets, hence them setting Afridi up. He's been know to just throw the bat at anything, so to me, it makes sense that they set him up and he fell for it. Desperate times for call desperate measures...
 
@mercurial, Afridi's wicket wasn't a set up IMO. **** ball, worse shot.
 
I do so want Ingrim to perform.
He does so well in domestic cricket it pains me when he fails.
 
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