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Mannydefreitas said:
I know of a source of info for questions like this, that no one on MyBB knows about.

Google.

So I asked your question on this magic Google answer box.

I found an answer on THE SOUTH AFRICAN, that I copied for you.

Here are it....

"[https://www-thesouthafrican-com]

Zeenat Simjee IN, Elton Jantjies OUT for Springboks – here’s why

There seems to be no way back into the Springbok fold for Elton Jantjies, while his alleged previous mistress Zeenat Simjee is already back and working with the team.

[https://www-thesouthafrican-com]

byMariette Adams

12-06-2023 13:41



THE BACKSTORY

By now every rugby enthusiast knows about the alleged love affair between Jantjies and Simjee, a relationship between colleagues which resulted a big scandal that rocked the South African team and undoubtedly did a lot of damage to the Springboks brand.

Since then, the Springboks have had one overseas tour (in November last year) and three alignment camps earlier this year in preparation for the Rugby Championship and the World Cup. Elton missed out of selection for all these events, while Zeenat has been back working with the team since from the start of this year.

Now, nine months after the pair’s affair was first exposed by one shocking headline after the other, Simjee seems to have settled back effortlessly into her role as team dietician, while Jantjies is still out in the cold, even now when he is fit and available for selection.

Some might wonder why that is the case.

WHY ZEENAT IS BACK WITH THE SPRINGBOKS AND ELTON IS NOT

Well the fact that Jantjies has been at the centre of several scandals off the field, which ranged from some shocking behaviour on a flight to his involvement in the alleged tryst with Simjee, certainly has nothing to do with his glaring omission.

But playing for a team languishing in the French second division, where he as a player has been battling with injuries and poor form certainly was the main reason for his non-selection.

For so long, Jantjies has served as the second-choice flyhalf in the Springboks squad, but is dip in form which coincided with the rise of Manie Libbok at the Stormers, has made him surplus to requirements at Test level.

Jantjies’ continued absence from the squad is not due to his infidelity. He was simply omitted from the Springboks’ 40-man squad because he just hasn’t played well enough to convince selectors that he should be there on merit."

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He also just failed a drug test. To add to that list.
www.sarugbymag.co.za

Elton drops drug test bombshell

Elton Jantjies faces a possible ban from rugby after the veteran Springbok flyhalf revealed that he has tested positive for banned substance Clenbuterol.
www.sarugbymag.co.za www.sarugbymag.co.za
 
sand_man said:
There's a chap on Breakdown having a proper moan about the 107 minutes it took for the match to finish. 33 mins of action.
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I'm a big fan of that show as well as The Final Whistle but damn they disrespected us.

I wish the ABs gets knocked out early so I can see them moan again.

Wow that was poor ftom them.
 
The commentary from the Welsh on WalesOnline is hilarious. Here are a few.

Very impressive performance by SA, not sure being able to bring on 7 forward replacements is good for the game as a whole ?


I feel that 7 forward replacements at one time must be absolutely daunting for the opposition, especially the quality of South African forwards. Moreover, dangerous to the opposition plays who are fatigued and and more susceptible to injury.


Is it gonna ruin the game though the opposition will start doing soon ,it will end up 23 forwards v 23 forwards ?


Incredible performance from the Boks. Surely world rugby needs to stop them having 7 forwards on the bench.


Oh god the whole rugby world can do without the Boks winning another world cup.
 
netstrider said:
The commentary from the Welsh on WalesOnline is hilarious. Here are a few.

Very impressive performance by SA, not sure being able to bring on 7 forward replacements is good for the game as a whole ?


I feel that 7 forward replacements at one time must be absolutely daunting for the opposition, especially the quality of South African forwards. Moreover, dangerous to the opposition plays who are fatigued and and more susceptible to injury.


Is it gonna ruin the game though the opposition will start doing soon ,it will end up 23 forwards v 23 forwards ?


Incredible performance from the Boks. Surely world rugby needs to stop them having 7 forwards on the bench.


Oh god the whole rugby world can do without the Boks winning another world cup.
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A bit of sour grapes and a hint of jealousy perhaps? It's not our fault that we have a wealth of depth at forward. Plus, we are playing to our strengths, so why should we not take advantage of this. Can't do it in every game though as you need a balance in case of injuries to the backline.
 
netstrider said:
The commentary from the Welsh on WalesOnline is hilarious. Here are a few.

Very impressive performance by SA, not sure being able to bring on 7 forward replacements is good for the game as a whole ?


I feel that 7 forward replacements at one time must be absolutely daunting for the opposition, especially the quality of South African forwards. Moreover, dangerous to the opposition plays who are fatigued and and more susceptible to injury.


Is it gonna ruin the game though the opposition will start doing soon ,it will end up 23 forwards v 23 forwards ?


Incredible performance from the Boks. Surely world rugby needs to stop them having 7 forwards on the bench.


Oh god the whole rugby world can do without the Boks winning another world cup.
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and moaners are gonna moan... oh no

Theres no rule restricting the make up of the subs is there? so why are they crying... let them pick their benches the way they want and let us do it our way... player fatigue is part of the game

how bout you all just git gud?
 
Werner1975 said:
A bit of sour grapes and a hint of jealousy perhaps? It's not our fault that we have a wealth of depth at forward. Plus, we are playing to our strengths, so why should we not take advantage of this. Can't do it in every game though as you need a balance in case of injuries to the backline.
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ShloshMalosh said:
and moaners are gonna moan... oh no

Theres no rule restricting the make up of the subs is there? so why are they crying... let them pick their benches the way they want and let us do it our way... player fatigue is part of the game

how bout you all just git gud?
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I've been reading there for a while. They have this notion that the Boks are dirty and play to injure the opposition and that it must be stopped and it's unfair etc. They said the same when it was 6-2. This is just a recurring theme from them.

They were equally upset Wales decided to play SA in a warmup because we inflict injuries so it's a bad idea so close to the RWC.
 
Oh yeah and we're all on steroids from school-level and not tested, somehow proven by the news that surfaces every now and again about a banned teen. Wonder how they get banned if they are not tested?
 
What they dont understand is that our physical dominance and subjugation is a cornerstone of our game, rugby is a contact sport after all.

Are we dirty? no dirtier than any other side it can be argued.
Do we play it hard and are our forwards brave when it comes to putting their heads into dark places? Yes definately more than other sides...

unlucky for them... they need to up their game... theres levels to this
 
I don't understand. Because we play to our strength which has always been a dominate pack and no one can match us upfront, everyone is trying to make it as if physicality at set piece is boring and should be against the laws because it's dangerous. Are they trying to force the competition to play a style they can match with? That doesn't make sense and because a bunch of weak nations agree it seems like it gets momentum.
 
ShloshMalosh said:
and moaners are gonna moan... oh no

Theres no rule restricting the make up of the subs is there? so why are they crying... let them pick their benches the way they want and let us do it our way... player fatigue is part of the game

how bout you all just git gud?
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They cried in 2019 over the ''Bomb Squad'' as well and wanted restrictions.

Not fair that the Boks have two starting packs, boo hoo, too dangerous, wahhh.

Seems like they are getting a headstart on the crying this time around
 
Harold_Crick said:
They cried in 2019 over the ''Bomb Squad'' as well and wanted restrictions.

Not fair that the Boks have two starting packs, boo hoo, too dangerous, wahhh.

Seems like they are getting a headstart on the crying this time around
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Watch the moaners moan now that we have upped the ante to an atomic bomb squad

When other teams play to their strengths in terms of skill then its "innovation"
When we do it its " not good for the game"

That being said, its not as simple as just crashballing and bashing... our forwards are trained in some serious wrestling skills.

We have mastered the dark arts of contact within the rules of the game of rugby and we've implemented them into a successful game plan.

You wanna run it and find gaps.. all good... pick 6 backs if you like, nothing stopping you.

Same thing in cricket when Steve Waugh penned " the spirit of cricket"

Who the heck are you to tell us how to play the game when the rules have been established by an independent body

Nothing more than hypocrisy and copium from those who cant eat it but love to dish it up
 
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