The SA Politics Thread Part 3

[TheChamp]

Nope.

From the Daily Maverick:



AdR never subscribed to the same values as the ANC, hence he cannot be a cadre. It's really not that hard to understand.

Okay, since that definition is convenient for now, explain to me how she is a cadre, I have always know her as an academic and I am not aware of any affiliation to the ANC, she was also certainly not appointed by the ANC to her position at UCT, how exactly does she fit into the definition you posted, which I assume you used to call her a cadre?

More chaos from cadre Phakeng and her useless buddies on council...fortunately their nefarious attempts to collapse the meeting failed.

UCT council appoints three judges to investigate VC Mamokgethi Phakeng and chairperson | News24

Three retired judges have been selected by the UCT council as part of a five-member panel to investigate Vice-Chancellor Mamokgethi Phakeng for alleged misconduct.

www.news24.com

 

[McTwinks]

The cars in the basement...

Underappreciated post.

 

[Nom Chompsky]

Okay, since that definition is convenient for now, explain to me how she is a cadre, I have always know her as an academic and I am not aware of any affiliation to the ANC, she was also certainly not appointed by the ANC to her position at UCT, how exactly does she fit into the definition you posted, which I assume you used to call her a cadre?

Well, she definitely fulfills many of the values of the ANC: incompetence, entitlement etc. Have you seen her subsequent position? Appointed by Cyril to an Advisory Council. I will tell you how these appointments are mostly made: through networking/connections. Her connection to Ramaphosa, albeit professional, is clearly indicative of being a cadre.

 

[Agent67]

He should campaign for the DA.

He probably never will, lol. But could you ****ing imagine that tho...

 

[TheChamp]

Well, she definitely fulfills many of the values of the ANC: incompetence, entitlement etc. Have you seen her subsequent position? Appointed by Cyril to an Advisory Council. I will tell you how these appointments are mostly made: through networking/connections. Her connection to Ramaphosa, albeit professional, is clearly indicative of being a cadre.

But she was a cadre even before she was appointed to Cyril's council, even though she was never appointed under any policy of the ANC to the UCT, nor was she appointed by the ANC, right?

 

[TheChamp]

He probably never will, lol. But could you ****ing imagine that tho...

The ANC and the DA are now one, just recently Steenhuisen surprised a lot of people when he heaped praise on the ANC stalwart Ahmed Kathrada. But some of us already knew what he was doing.

I propose we bury the hatchet now on MyBb and hold hands towards 2024.

From now on it shall be called The Great Democratic Liberation Movement to show the unity between the two parties.

 

[Agent67]

Almost 60% of South Africans call for privatisation of Eskom – survey | City Press

The sentiment for privatisation is particularly strong among residents of the Western Cape, but it is significantly lower in other provinces.

www.news24.com

 

[Nom Chompsky]

But she was a cadre even before she was appointed to Cyril's council, even though she was never appointed under any policy of the ANC to the UCT, nor was she appointed by the ANC, right?

Yes, she was an ANC cadre before her appointment. It's why she failed upwards so spectacularly.

 

[sefeddt]

Yes, she was an ANC cadre before her appointment. It's why she failed upwards so spectacularly.

Still is a loyal cadre calls herself a political commentator but is just a mouth piece for ANC.

 

[Agent67]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1663853364688433152

We do have the systems for it, but ANC would never allow it.

 

[Agent67]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1663882891644874755

 

[daveza]

Free State govt defends spending R3.5m on ex-education MEC Tate Makgoe's funeral | News24

The Free State government has justified spending R3.5 million on former education MEC Tate Makgoe's funeral, saying he was "popular and his funeral was expected to draw multitudes of people".

www.news24.com

This is what part of your salary is used for.

The costs included, among others:

• R97 500 for finger food for his family and government dignitaries.
• R70 000 for decor, R6 000 for a red carpet and R24 000 for chair covers.
• R27 5000 for programmes.

The province also paid R485 480 for what it termed an "MEC infrastructure/lunch" for activities that took place at Makgoe's house in the period between his death and funeral from 8 to 12 March.

This price tag included the following:

• R20 00 for groceries and R13 500 for draping.
• R31 050 for a marque.
• R34 280 for a generator.
• R136 500 for food.
• R66 000 for executive chairs.

The bill for the day of the actual funeral was R1 835 980, which did not include funeral parlour and graveyard costs, which came to R417 324.

This amount entailed:

• R39 850 for the mortuary fee, which included the preparation of the body.
• R84 900 for the casket.
• R46 000 for the burial plot.
• R95 000 for the tombstone.
• R59 000 for red roses.

The cost of the actual funeral came to R1 835 980.

This amount included:

• R643 500 for lunch for 3 000 people.
• R75 000 each for three gospel artists who performed at the funeral.
• R96 876 for accreditation.
• R150 000 for snacks for 2 000 people.

 

[TheChamp]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1663853364688433152

We do have the systems for it, but ANC would never allow it.

Rightfully so, we have terms for local government and national government, there is no reason why local government outcomes should influence national government.

The idea that you can pull a fast one and steal an election while your opponent is weak does not work, if you are really good your popularity should sustain and you should be able to replicate your local government form to national at whatever time the national election is held. If you are so afraid you would have lost your shine in 2 years time you are a fluke.

 

[JuliusSeizure]

But she was a cadre even before she was appointed to Cyril's council, even though she was never appointed under any policy of the ANC to the UCT, nor was she appointed by the ANC, right?

I recall that there were stories Hill-Lewis was trying to cadre deploy Van Onselen to a post at UCT.

 

[JuliusSeizure]

If you can admit that André and Melanie are cadres, it would make this a lot easier instead of jumping through hoops to defend them...

You arguing with the same guy who admitted he has hope Brink would turn things around in Tshwane just because he is white when the DA's previous stuff ups there were brought up.

 

[CTBP]

I recall that there were stories Hill-Lewis was trying to cadre deploy Van Onselen to a post at UCT.

@surface please take notes, we have more stories to add to the book.

 

[Nom Chompsky]

I recall that there were stories Hill-Lewis was trying to cadre deploy Van Onselen to a post at UCT.

You are as usual posting based on ignorance. Under UCT Council rules, the mayor of Cape Town and the Premier of the Western Cape are each allowed to nominate a representative.

 

[Oldfut]

Still is a loyal cadre calls herself a political commentator but is just a mouth piece for ANC.

For me much dancing around on the head of a pin. I see an ANC cadre is someone whose affiliation is to the ANC and gets parachuted into some position arbitrarily (and seldom adds value once there, usually the opposite). Verwoerd was a long time ANC member, Leon was not; seems simple to me. Being appointed by an ANC (or alliance rogue, Jamnadas et al) does not make someone a cadre. There are a host of in-betweeners like Phucking, Kollarpin, Moleleafy, Kokonut etc etc.

 

[Agent67]

Rightfully so, we have terms for local government and national government, there is no reason why local government outcomes should influence national government.

Usually, if a government loses support en masse like the PSOE in Spain and Tories in the UK in local elections, they aren't going to do much better on a national scale.

It's common overseas. If a local election goes this badly for a party, you might as well rip off the bandaid and hold national elections.

P.S. The Spanish elections were meant to be held at the end of the year, but it's been brought forward to July...

The idea that you can pull a fast one and steal an election while your opponent is weak does not work, if you are really good your popularity should sustain and you should be able to replicate your local government form to national at whatever time the national election is held. If you are so afraid you would have lost your shine in 2 years time you are a fluke.

Steal, how exactly?

 

[Nom Chompsky]

https://twitter.com/JamesvandenH