The SA Politics Thread Part 3

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DentistGuy said:
- The 'universal subsidy'- vague, nonsense, unrealistic
-The whole plan for the South African health system is barely 10 pages, large font- poorly written- reads like someone's matric essay submission.

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The DA can kick and scream all they want- but they dont have a workable plan for addressing the health system.
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There's a good reason for this...

There is no possibility to provide everybody with free everything, even less so when most of the money is stolen.

The only reason for the ANC's NHI plan is to add more money for them to steal.
 
ghaye said:
There's a good reason for this...

There is no possibility to provide everybody with free everything, even less so when most of the money is stolen.

The only reason for the ANC's NHI plan is to add more money for them to steal.
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And get more votes
 
DentistGuy said:
- The 'universal subsidy'- vague, nonsense, unrealistic
-The whole plan for the South African health system is barely 10 pages, large font- poorly written- reads like someone's matric essay submission.

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The DA can kick and scream all they want- but they dont have a workable plan for addressing the health system.
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Here's the DA's full Health Policy. That one you posted seems to be from 2019. And in the one I'm posting, there's no mention of Sizani at a quick glance.

Btw if you want to find out more about DA policy, go here: https://www.da.org.za/why-the-da/policies

Also, it seems DA does support the idea of an NHI-type thing, but they're opposed to how the ANC wants to do it.
 
PrimeSteak said:
Results of by-elections yesterday:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1669183741690871808
IFP still blikseming the ANC in KZN. Took the ward outright and went up by 27%.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1669183744232550406
ANC holds. DA went up by 12%. EFF lost 4%. ANC still seems strong in EC.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1669183746182873088
ANC holds. Big loss for DA. Sadly, the gangster party went up by 24%.
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Takeaways here:

IFP still continuing their trend. It's extremely likely that ANC will lose KZN next year, and IFP will make massive gains and might be able to govern by a coalition...
ANC is still strong in EC. DA's outings in EC a mixed bag, made some good inroads but this is the first big loss for them there.
 
PrimeSteak said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1669186949586796544

If this is where ANC is currently at, going by by-election results since 2021... They're in trouble. Just look at the KZN tally...
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I would agree, at this point the ANC should be kak scared of what is happening in the economic hubs of the country..

I won't lie, the idea of the IFP being the "lead" party in a coalition in KZN does't necessarily mean anything will be better, the IFP are just as dodgy as the ANC in many ways and these guys will take it as a sign that its their time to feed.
 
PrimeSteak said:
Results of by-elections yesterday:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1669183741690871808
IFP still blikseming the ANC in KZN. Took the ward outright and went up by 27%.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1669183744232550406
ANC holds. DA went up by 12%. EFF lost 4%. ANC still seems strong in EC.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1669183746182873088
ANC holds. Big loss for DA. Sadly, the gangster party went up by 24%.
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It's the last kick of a dying horse, by the time John is done with the Moonshot, that annoying PA will cease to exist.
 
ToxicBunny said:
I would agree, at this point the ANC should be kak scared of what is happening in the economic hubs of the country..
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Definitely. WC has always been lost to them, so it wouldn't be surprising. But that KZN and GP score...
ToxicBunny said:
I won't lie, the idea of the IFP being the "lead" party in a coalition in KZN does't necessarily mean anything will be better, the IFP are just as dodgy as the ANC in many ways and these guys will take it as a sign that its their time to feed.
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Tbf could an IFP/IFP coalition gov be that much worse than ANC rule there in KZN?
 
JuliusSeizure said:
The PA is not going anywhere at least anytime soon and the DA fluffed in their strategy to expose them.
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The PA will expose themselves in the medium term if you ask me... yes the DA fluffed in trying to negate their impact in the short term but Gayton and his crew will expose themselves in the next cycle in my opinion.
 
PrimeSteak said:
Definitely. WC has always been lost to them, so it wouldn't be surprising. But that KZN and GP score...

Tbf could an IFP/IFP coalition gov be that much worse than ANC rule there in KZN?
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I think an IFP only government will probably be just as bad as the ANC rule in KZN eventually, initially it will be better but the "time to eat" mindset will set in very quickly and devolve from there.
An IFP coalition government will probably be able to hold out from the 'time to eat' crowd for a bit longer but I'm unsure for how much longer.
 
JuliusSeizure said:
I sometimes wonder why DA die-hards blame the voters for the loss of votes to the PA but had more understanding for the voters who went to the VF+.
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They like people they can control and we all know voters who go to the VF+ are not really lost to the DA, the Freedom Front will do the right thing and unite behind the DA. The problem with the PA is that they are not the DA good boy kind of party that would sit when they are told to.
 
TheChamp said:
They like people they can control and we all know voters who go to the VF+ are not really lost to the DA, the Freedom Front will do the right thing and unite behind the DA.
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Also, when the VF plus has a go at DA, it's the only time DA criticism is tolerated for some reason.
 
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