The SA Politics Thread Part 3

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TheChamp said:
No idea, I think that's a very fair and valid question, but why would anyone need to precede it with derogatory name calling?
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Fair point.. But I think in general people are gatvol of our ministers and them doing sweet fek all for years.
 
No surprises that the Action SA councillors are the ones under heavy suspicion... dodgy party that.

Beaumont still sore Steenhuisen had an affair with his ex-wife so it clouds his vision.
 
6spdmanual said:
I would say:
- De Klerk: C
- Madiba: A
- Mbeki: C+
- Motlante: N/A
- Zuma: D-
- Cyril: D-

https://twitter.com/x/status/1630634942345429002
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Mandela was a good symbol and people's person but not necessarily the best president.

Mbeki deserves better than a C, his HIV nonsense aside. The economy was booming under him.

De Klerk: B
Mandela: B
Mbeki: B+
Motlante: C
Zuma: FFF
Cyril: D
 
6spdmanual said:
I would say:
- De Klerk: C
- Madiba: A
- Mbeki: C+
- Motlante: N/A
- Zuma: D-
- Cyril: D-

https://twitter.com/x/status/1630634942345429002
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Lol what are you rating? Purely likeablilty and public opinion, or what they actually did?

De Klerk B (could have excluded the ANC from negotiations more)
Mandela C ( Good job didn't go full commie and served only one term, remarkable for and African struggle hero, but meh.)
Mbeki B+ (World class politician, as good as you can hope for in any country. )
Zuma. F
 
rietrot said:
Lol what are you rating? Purely likeablilty and public opinion, or what they actually did?

De Klerk B (could have excluded the ANC from negotiations more)
Mandela C ( Good job didn't go full commie and served only one term, remarkable for and African struggle hero, but meh.)
Mbeki B+ (World class politician, as good as you can hope for in any country. )
Zuma. F
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Your assessments of De Klerk and Mbeki are a bit too positive.

Mbeki was good with economics but ultimately is viewed negatively because he lacked knowledge of the Aids crisis. Had he based his policy with guidance from health professionals, he may have been viewed more positively than Mandela.
 
Inertia said:
It's clear COPE is well and truly out of the UF coalition. Whether they took a decision at the top or every COPE member is just a free agent doesn't really matter. The UF needs to issue a statement kicking them out.

COPE has fcked over a lot of people by turning to the dark side.
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COPE is dead m8. They will be out of parliament next year. Probably be dead by 2026.

At this point, it's all about "time to eat before the party is over".
Inertia said:
I wonder how ASA is going to spin this as the DA's fault
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Yup... ****ing vote was held by secret ballot apparently.
 
JuliusSeizure said:
Your assessments of De Klerk and Mbeki are a bit too positive.

Mbeki was good with economics but ultimately is viewed negatively because he lacked knowledge of the Aids crisis. Had he based his policy with guidance from health professionals, he may have been viewed more positively than Mandela.
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Mbeki is viewed negatively by Karens who want to be nannied by the government, who would complain either way, if the government told them other people to stop sleeping around, they would complain just as hard.

Mbeki was okay on economics, not great

I rate him positively because:
1. It is not the governments job to regulate who you fsck.
2. Taxpayers should not be made to pay for your misadventures.
 
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