The SA Politics Thread Part 3

[Agent67]

Beaufort West is trying too hard to be mini Tshwane

But I like how the moment he went over, he just suddenly became muni manager...

Totally nothing sus there...

And going by the statement by the DA, it seems he's gone rogue long ago. I assume the PA coalition offered him the muni manager position if he jumped ship.

 

[TheChamp]

Beaufort West councillor switches from DA to PA — and days later becomes municipal manager

Former Democratic Alliance councillor in Beaufort West appointed as municipal manager — just days after joining the Patriotic Alliance.

www.dailymaverick.co.za

Some cadre deployment for them, I guess there's no reason to be left behind when both the ANC and DA do it where they govern.

 

[JuliusSeizure]

But I like how the moment he went over, he just suddenly became muni manager...

Totally nothing sus there...

DA did the same many times.

Madikizela joined from ANC and got big positions in the DA. Same for Nosimo Balindlela (who was an ANC Premier of EC). Ghaleb Cachalia also joined DA and was suddenly fielded for Mayor. He is also a former ANC guy. Just three examples off the top of my head.

The ANC probably would issue very similar statements. That is what parties do in these cases.

Don't forget, Zille recruited the Amathembu King Dalinyebo back in the day (to get votes) when she well knew he was a shady chap.

 

[JuliusSeizure]

Some cadre deployment for them, I guess there's no reason to be left behind when both the ANC and DA do it where they govern.

For some reason, it isn't called Cadre Deployment here when the DA does it.

 

[TheChamp]

For some reason, it isn't called Cadre Deployment here when the DA does it.

Yeah, it's never what it looks like.

 

[TheChamp]

But I like how the moment he went over, he just suddenly became muni manager...

Totally nothing sus there...

And going by the statement by the DA, it seems he's gone rogue long ago. I assume the PA coalition offered him the muni manager position if he jumped ship.

He has experience, was a municipal manager before, he was appointed on merit, the politics happening in the background is just a wonderful coincidence.

Welgemoed was a municipal manager at Beaufort West from 1996 to 2006.

 

[ShaunSA]

Some cadre deployment for them, I guess there's no reason to be left behind when both the ANC and DA do it where they govern.

Everybody does it. But there should really be another term for it. Maybe there is

/goes off to google

 

[Agent67]

Madikizela joined from ANC and got big positions in the DA. Same for Nosimo Balindlela (who was an ANC Premier of EC). Ghaleb Cachalia also joined DA and was suddenly fielded for Mayor. He is also a former ANC guy. Just three examples off the top of my head.

So they got party positions? That's normal. Mayor is an political appointment, it's how it works.

What I'm contending is the fact that the moment the oke walked over he coincidentally got a civil service job at the muni (which isn't supposed to be a political deployment, but hey...), muni manager in this case...

 

[Agent67]

He has experience, was a municipal manager before, he was appointed on merit, the politics happening in the background is just a wonderful coincidence.

Oh, come off it Champ. Really? "The politics" is just a happy coincidence?

LMAO, sure...

 

[Agent67]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1648916790016180225

Paywalled.

 

[JuliusSeizure]

So they got party positions? That's normal. Mayor is an political appointment, it's how it works.

Same happened with Cachalia. He joined and the DA fielded him for Mayor of Ekhurhuleni.

 

[ShaunSA]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1648916790016180225

Paywalled.

Cyril is playing the long game. Just you guys wait and see

Another decade and those ministers will be behind bars

 

[Sideshow Bob]

He is mistaking his father's support for his own, remember when he made a rally and struggled to speak in his father's language? Maybe old Zuma might campaign for him but judging by his record of campaigning for his ex wife I would say it won't help much for Dudu.

FFS. If Zuma's son can't talk fluently in isiZulu, then let us not harp on anyone else.

 

[Agent67]

Same happened with Cachalia. He joined and the DA fielded him for Mayor of Ekhurhuleni.

Yeah. Political positions... Being a Mayor is a political position. It's how it works.

Cachalia wasn't coincidentally appointed in the muni itself now, was he?

 

[JuliusSeizure]

FFS. If Zuma's son can't talk fluently in isiZulu, then let us not harp on anyone else.

He probably speaks a fusion of Zulu and English. He needs the strong fluency to do well in rural parts of KZN so it his best for his and his Dad's image to not speak.

 

[R13...]

He probably speaks a fusion of Zulu and English. He needs the strong fluency to do well in rural parts of KZN so it his best for his and his Dad's image to not speak.

Zulu people laugh at him when he speaks isiZulu, lol.
But people are also stupid so he may well get enough votes to get a seat. And the various ANC proxy parties, like ATM, etc would nominate him for president. He wouldn't win however.

 

[wingnut771]

If I was a billionaire, I would also get votes.

 

[Agent67]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1648950445685997568

 

[JuliusSeizure]

If I was a billionaire, I would also get votes.

If you have money, its quite easy. All you have to do is talk to a couple of pastors, chiefs and religious leaders and get them to endorse you in front of their following.

This is why most politicians prioritize relationships with religious and cultural figures.

 

[TheChamp]

So they got party positions? That's normal. Mayor is an political appointment, it's how it works.

What I'm contending is the fact that the moment the oke walked over he coincidentally got a civil service job at the muni (which isn't supposed to be a political deployment, but hey...), muni manager in this case...

It may not be a political deployment but it is still a politically influenced appointment.

Case in point, The current Tshwane municipal manager was the Nelson Mandela Bay manager when the DA was governing in 2016, when they got Joburg in 2021 they wanted to bring Mettler in as municipal manager, his appointment was opposed,

amaBhungane | Joburg council set for showdown over city manager appointment | News24

Battle lines are being drawn in the City of Johannesburg’s governing coalition over the appointment of the city manager - the most senior bureaucrat in the city’s administration.

www.news24.com

And the DA was finally able to appoint him for Tshwane.

Johann Mettler officially announced as Tshwane’s new city manager

Mettler previously served as Nelson Mandela Bay municipal manager before being suspended and later parting ways with the city before the end of his term.

ewn.co.za

That's just how we roll, we can argue that it's not a political position until the cows come home, but we all know better, if anyone disagrees the DA will point at Mettler's experience the same way I did with the PA guy, anything else is just a wonderful coincidence.