The SA Politics Thread Part 3

Status
Not open for further replies.
ToxicBunny said:
Point 5 and Point 6 do address some element of underlying problems, the other 4 are populist bullshyte statements that have no place in our democracy.
Click to expand...
1. is mostly correct. You need to put religioun back in schools.
2. Conscription. I would not make it mandatory, but you need something to turn all the feminine boys into men and teach the feral youth some discipline. Not having it mandatory is problematic as those that need it the most won't go voluntary. (Maybe you can do really short 2 months basic training. Mandatory )
3. His only point I 100% fully agree with. All illegals must go.
4. Agree in principle with the death penalty.
5. Sounds like commie BS. But he is also correct. We Should not just shíp raw resources off to china but process t
hem into higher quality products and actually make some stuff. How to get this done is the problem. We need cheap electricity and transport. Which we don't have. His plan is probably stupid.
6. Well we cannot cancel race, that framing is incorrect. But he is correct in that we should cancel racial discrimination laws.
 
rietrot said:
1. is mostly correct. You need to put religioun back in schools.
2. Conscription. I would not make it mandatory, but you need something to turn all the feminine boys into men and teach the feral youth some discipline. Not having it mandatory is problematic as those that need it the most won't go voluntary. (Maybe you can do really short 2 months basic training. )
3. His only point I 100% fully agree with. All illegals must go.
4. Agree in principle with the death penalty.
5. Sounds like commie BS. But he is also correct. We Should not just shíp raw resources off to china but process t
hem into higher quality products and actually make some stuff. How to get this done is the problem. We need cheap electricity and transport. Which we don't have. His plan is probably stupid.
6. Well we cannot cancel race that framing is incorrect. But he is correct in that we should cancel racial discrimination laws.
Click to expand...

1. No you don't, religion has FSCK ALL place in our education system.
2. No, conscription should not be in place... definitely not while we have a defunct military. The military needs to be rebuilt and fashioned in a way that makes it attractive for people to want to join.
3. Illegals are not our core problem, they are possibly a problem yes but not a major one.
4. Death penalty does not achieve any fundamental shift in crime patterns.
5. and 6. have some merit but need nuance.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3WA
ToxicBunny said:
1. No you don't, religion has FSCK ALL place in our education system.
2. No, conscription should not be in place... definitely not while we have a defunct military. The military needs to be rebuilt and fashioned in a way that makes it attractive for people to want to join.
3. Illegals are not our core problem, they are possibly a problem yes but not a major one.
4. Death penalty does not achieve any fundamental shift in crime patterns.
5. and 6. have some merit but need nuance.
Click to expand...
1. Yes it does and you are wrong.
2. You do not do this type of conscription in peacetime for career soldiers It's got nothing to do with that actual military.
3. Irrelevant as to exactly how big of a problem they are. Illegals need to go and we need to seriously limit how much refugees we take in.
4. You just don't know what you are talking about.
 
rietrot said:
1. Yes it does and you are wrong.
2. You do not do this type of conscription in peacetime for career soldiers It's got nothing to do with that actual military.
3. Irrelevant as to exactly how big of a problem they are. Illegals need to go and we need to seriously limit how much refugees we take in.
4. You just don't know what you are talking about.
Click to expand...
Religious indoctrination of children, lol, funny guy.
 
rietrot said:
1. Yes it does and you are wrong.
2. You do not do this type of conscription in peacetime for career soldiers It's got nothing to do with that actual military.
3. Irrelevant as to exactly how big of a problem they are. Illegals need to go and we need to seriously limit how much refugees we take in.
4. You just don't know what you are talking about.
Click to expand...

1. I know we'll never agree on this but at most our children should be taught about religions (all of them) and there should be no "God in schools".
2. And the military should not be a vehicle to "fix" cultural problems because it will create new and untameable ones.
3. But in the context of his "stance" he says they are the core of our problems and he is wrong and spewing populist bullshyhte.
4. No, you don't. Studies have shown that the Death Penalty is not effective at changing criminal behaviours.
 
The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
Yes, those views would horrify most DA MPs and much of their support base.
Click to expand...

Mhhm, DA defended Mashaba on his hardline stances towards foreigners when he was popular within the DA ranks.

Van Onselen and co never penned articles on Mashaba's attitudes to foreigners when he was popular in the DA. He was getting criticism from the mainstream press about it though.
 
TheChamp said:
And funny enough he was never scared for his life all along, until Duma threatened to give him a good thrashing.

But maybe he is weak and thinks he might die from that.
Click to expand...
Maybe that is what you tell all the other KZN politicians that get popped off by their rivals. C'mon man (or woman), toughen up.
 
Oldfut said:
Maybe that is what you tell all the other KZN politicians that get popped off by their rivals. C'mon man (or woman), toughen up.
Click to expand...
No, only those who were tough guys when they were calling others names but are now scared for their lives because the others uttered a few unpleasant words of their own.

Wake me up though when you see headlines about his death resulting from being moered by Duma.
 
www.timeslive.co.za

Mayor Brink says Tshwane unlikely to achieve 'clean or unqualified' audit for this financial year

Tshwane mayor Cilliers Brink has vowed to tackle the city's financial woes head-on, saying the adverse audit for the 2021/22 financial year had come as a shock and wake-up call.
www.timeslive.co.za www.timeslive.co.za

Brink said for many residents, the audit had confirmed their own experience of deteriorating service delivery and a sense that, like the rest of the country, the capital city was failing.
Click to expand...

The honesty is refreshing.
 
G'Wobblez said:
Which religion?
will we create schools for each one?
And one for people who don’t want religion in schools?

Schools should not teach religion. That is the parents choice.
Click to expand...
Exactly, that's the reason it was canceled in the first place, of the children cannot find God at home, there is really no chance they will find God at school.
 
G'Wobblez said:
Which religion?
will we create schools for each one?
And one for people who don’t want religion in schools?

Schools should not teach religion. That is the parents choice.
Click to expand...

So, even as a rabid atheist ( :P ) I actually swing somewhere in the middle. Our schools should teach about religion, and as many of them as possible, but they should not have religion as part of their ethos, or approach to education or anything of the sort. The choice of a religion to expose a child to must be the parents.
 
ToxicBunny said:
So, even as a rabid atheist ( :p ) I actually swing somewhere in the middle. Our schools should teach about religion, and as many of them as possible, but they should not have religion as part of their ethos, or approach to education or anything of the sort. The choice of a religion to expose a child to must be the parents.
Click to expand...
Imagine the meltdown when one day the lesson is about Satanism, or any of those that are frowned upon, just stay clear of it. Those who are interested can get everything from the internet.
 
TheChamp said:
Imagine the meltdown when one day the lesson is about Satanism, or any of those that are frowned upon, just stay clear of it. Those who are interested can get everything from the internet.
Click to expand...

Absolutely no question, it shouldn't be a subject at a primary school level... maybe an elective offered in high school..

Or an abstract class as part of a different subject stream that touches on religion(s)... but never in too much detail.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top
Sign up to the MyBroadband newsletter
X