The SA Politics Thread Part 6

[wingnut771]

So what did the ANC announce at their media briefing?

fokkal

 

[daveza]

What about the minister of PetroSA and the minister of loadshedding?

Gwedi still needs to eat for a bit longer.

 

[Leisure Larry]

Hope he won;t even find employment as a garden boy


SJARRRUPPPP!!!!!!

That SJARRRUPPP from him
was a classic

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

Yes, that's like calling NDZ an outspoken Cyril supporter because she served in Cyril's cabinet and was even the Minister in the Presidency at some point.

Zizi is not the Mbalula type who nails his colours to the mast, he generally goes about his business quietly without much fanfare.

A former Zuma supporter, who loudly campaigned for the former president outside his corruption and rape courtrooms, Kodwa shifted his allegiances to Ramaphosa when Zuma's star began to fade.

FIRST TAKE | Zizi Kodwa's arrest a pyrrhic victory for Ramaphosa | News24

Zizi Kodwa is the latest victim of the Ramaphosa era's restoration of the NPA and the Hawks, but the president knew about Kodwa's alleged corruption since at least 2021, writes Adriaan Basson.

www.news24.com

He's just another Fikile who changed allegiances depending on the balance of power. There's no defending this parasite...

 

[wingnut771]

That SJARRRUPPP from him
was a classic

 

[konfab]

No Kodwa, Cele, Pandor, Zulu, Gordhan, Dlamini-Zuma, it's a good start.

Not to mention Patel is gone as well

 

[wingnut771]

Not to mention Patel is gone as well

minister of slops

 

[Agent67]

So what did the ANC announce at their media briefing?

Bhengu-Motsiri can't say whether all parties would be included in a government of national unity, it depends on the negotiations and the skills parties bring to the table.
- Jan Gerber

"At this point in time, the conversation is looking at a government of national unity," says Bhengu-Motsiri.
She says this is what the electorate wants.
"I can indicate that the ANC has reached out to everyone."
"We don't want to have an information vacuum," she says adding, they also want to avoid a situation, like in other democracies, where it takes a very long time to form a government.
- Jan Gerber

The NEC will consider all these fundamentals in deciding whoforms part of the government of national unity when it meets on Thursday.
- Jan Gerber

ANC basically announces GNU, but we don't know who'll be part of it yet.

 

[Agent67]

ANC sê hy het net oë vir VF Plus in Noord-Kaap: ‘Die party is stabiel’ | Netwerk24

Die Vryheidsfront Plus is in dié stadium die enigste party wat die ANC as samewerkingsvennoot in die Noord-Kaap wil hê, “omdat hy ’n stabiele party is”.

www.netwerk24.com

Paywalled.

The party which they've been in talks with in NC... Is the Principled Party™ itself, VF+...

Although VF+ denies a "coalition". So, ANC minority gov + external VF+ backing?

 

[wingnut771]

ANC basically announces GNU, but we don't know who'll be part of it yet.

Like I said, they announced fokkal.

 

[Franna]

No Kodwa, Cele, Pandor, Zulu, Gordhan, Dlamini-Zuma, it's a good start.

NDZ retired earlier this year. Agree with booting the unqualified Cele and corrupted Mantashe! Operation Cleanup 2024. And while at it reduce the massive cabinet size costing mega-millions:

Is cabinet bloated? A look at the size of the national executive under Zuma vs Ramaphosa

In his first state of the nation address in 2018, the president promised to make changes to the number of government departments.

www.sowetanlive.co.za

 

[rietrot]

NDZ retired earlier this year. Agree with booting the unqualified Cele and corrupted Mantashe! Operation Cleanup 2024. And while at it reduce the massive cabinet size costing mega-millions:

Is cabinet bloated? A look at the size of the national executive under Zuma vs Ramaphosa

In his first state of the nation address in 2018, the president promised to make changes to the number of government departments.

www.sowetanlive.co.za

Is the cabinet bloated?
We have minister in the presidency with no portfolios

It is not only bloated it is completely ridiculous.

 

[Garson007]

Is the cabinet bloated?
We have minister in the presidency with no portfolios

It is not only bloated it is completely ridiculous.

The UK does that too, tbf.

The US has a Chief of Staff.

 

[Inertia]

ANC basically announces GNU, but we don't know who'll be part of it yet.

Makes no sense for the DA to be apart of this. If they don't join then it's just the ANC+EFF+PA. They may throw in the IFP to make it look legit.

 

[R13...]

Is the cabinet bloated?
We have minister in the presidency with no portfolios

It is not only bloated it is completely ridiculous.

The minister in the presidency looks after the SSA, and GCIS.

 

[wingnut771]

Is the cabinet bloated?
We have minister in the presidency with no portfolios

It is not only bloated it is completely ridiculous.

we also have 3 ministers of eskom.

 

[wingnut771]

The UK does that too, tbf.

The US has a Chief of Staff.

UK - 22 ministers
US - 15 ministers

Wakanda - 28 ministers (reduced from 36 in 2019)

 

[konfab]

ANC sê hy het net oë vir VF Plus in Noord-Kaap: ‘Die party is stabiel’ | Netwerk24

Die Vryheidsfront Plus is in dié stadium die enigste party wat die ANC as samewerkingsvennoot in die Noord-Kaap wil hê, “omdat hy ’n stabiele party is”.

www.netwerk24.com

Paywalled.

The party which they've been in talks with in NC... Is the Principled Party™ itself, VF+...

Although VF+ denies a "coalition". So, ANC minority gov + external VF+ backing?

VP+ had a deputy cabinet position under Zuma FFS.

They are in a much better position now than they were then.

 

[DapperDanMan]

I have a feeling we will only find out when the MPs do their secret vote thing in 2 weeks time.

Only 10 days left.

But it's okay, we understand you missed a few due to the aftereffects of alcohol ...

 

[konfab]

UK - 22 ministers
US - 15 ministers

Wakanda - 28 ministers (reduced from 36 in 2019)

Does that include deputy ministers?