The SA Politics Thread Part 6

[Harmonic]

Twitter bots on this matter have been something to behold. After watching them for a few days, I have one burning question:

What does Russia gain from South Africa burning to the ground?

Minerals.

 

[TheChamp]

I'll be very happy if they deliberately exclude themselves from government. Best possible outcome.

That's probably the idea, the ANC should have foreseen that the EFF would most likely throw a tantrum and go sulk at the back of the house, it's a win win, the ANC was gracious enough to invite everyone, some parties declined, others accepted. No one can accuse them of anything.

 

[TheChamp]

I wonder how many sittings it'll take to elect president and speaker? The MKP and EFF will sure make sure it doesn't happen at the first sitting at least.

Who is going to be presiding on the election of the Speaker, Zondo?

 

[Agent67]

Who is going to be presiding on the election of the Speaker, Zondo?

Yup.

Justice Maya will success current Chief Justice Raymond Zondo, who retires on 31 August 2024, at the end of his 12-year term as a justice of the Constitutional Court.

Chief Justice Appointment 2024 - Judges Matter

Some of the features of the role of Chief Justice and the appointment process ahead of the May 2024 interview of Judge Mandisa Maya.

www.judgesmatter.co.za

 

[Nom Chompsky]

The police are part of national security, highly unlikely that will simply be given to the DA or any other party, you are more likely to get the deputy President than getting the police ministry.
As others have said the most likely thing is for the DA to push for parliament positions, if the wanted the police but know they can't get them, ask for the portfolio committee on police.

The same way the DA has been operating in the local governments where they used being a big party to get the important positions like mayor and finance, is what us going to happen here, at most it would be the deputy minister, which I think is a very useless position.

Why would the DA settle for a largely powerless position like the DP? The DA - correctly in my view - are aiming for the far more powerful Speaker position.

 

[TheChamp]

I honestly believe if that happens, MK will initiate riots.

Remove the common enemy from the picture, get an IFP Premier, the DA and ANC accept whatever positions they are given, then sit back and observe from a distance.

They will sort each other out in no time.

 

[Garson007]

Who is going to be presiding on the election of the Speaker, Zondo?

Yes.

 

[Garson007]

Why would the DA settle for a largely powerless position like the DP? The DA - correctly in my view - are aiming for the far more powerful Speaker position.

The DA being the party of parliament is by far the best outcome for them and for us.

 

[TheChamp]

Why would the DA settle for a largely powerless position like the DP? The DA - correctly in my view - are aiming for the far more powerful Speaker position.

Still applicable, they are more likely to get the Speaker position than the ministry of police.

 

[TheChamp]

Any appetite from the DA for the Ministry of Cogta? A state of disaster looks very likely, remember how powerful NDZ was?

 

[TheChamp]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1798988114893197378

 

[Agent67]

DA sets out principles for GNU participation — Constitution first, Sarb independence

The DA dropped its most contentious manifesto points, such as scrapping BEE and amending the minimum wage laws.

www.dailymaverick.co.za

 

[Agent67]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1798988114893197378

Won't work, and DA won't fall for it again.

E.g. DA/EFF forms a minority government like in 2016. EFF immediately throws tantrums afterwards, runs to ANC, MONCs remaining DA gov.

We've seen this movie. They're aching because they're being left out.

 

[Agent67]

The 7th Parliament: Meet your new (and returning) MPs

On Thursday, the Secretary to Parliament received the list of the 400 members of the National Assembly elected through 18 political parties who will become the MPs of the seventh Parliament. We take a look at who they are.

www.dailymaverick.co.za

 

[Agent67]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1799010378074272156

The Democratic Alliance (DA) says it will only agree to be part of the African National Congress’ (ANC) proposed government of national unity (GNU) if the uMkhonto weSizwe (MK) Party, Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF), and Patriotic Alliance (PA) are excluded.

“And on Monday, the Federal Council will have to decide; but even the smallest inclusion of those three parties, well, in terms of the current resolution of the federal executive, it will be very difficult, if not impossible, for us to be included.”

 

[Priapus]

DA sets out principles for GNU participation — Constitution first, Sarb independence

The DA dropped its most contentious manifesto points, such as scrapping BEE and amending the minimum wage laws.

www.dailymaverick.co.za

Ball is now in ANC's court. Let's see what they do.

 

[Priapus]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1799010378074272156

That's fair. You can't expect the DA to work with EFF and MK when their principles are so far apart.

 

[R13...]

Who is going to be presiding on the election of the Speaker, Zondo?

Yes,

House must elect the Speaker from its members during the first House sitting. The house may remove the Speaker by resolution. The house must fill the position when it becomes vacant during term. Chief Justice must preside over the election of the Speaker.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1798988114893197378

 

[ToxicBunny]

That's fair. You can't expect the DA to work with EFF and MK when their principles are so far apart.

Its fair, but I can also see it being used as the "sticking" point that derails the process.