The SA Politics Thread Part 6

[R13...]

I wonder how many sittings it'll take to elect president and speaker? The MKP and EFF will sure make sure it doesn't happen at the first sitting at least.

 

[Agent67]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1798982445800595905

IFP essentially says yes to GNU.

 

[The_Mowgs]

I wonder how many sittings it'll take to elect president and speaker? The MKP and EFF will sure make sure it doesn't happen at the first sitting at least.

4

 

[Agent67]

The MKP and EFF will sure make sure it doesn't happen at the first sitting at least.

EFF will play along, MK has also said they'll attend...

 

[Sideshow Bob]

I'll be very happy if they deliberately exclude themselves from government. Best possible outcome.

Negotiation tactic. Cyril needs to call his bluff.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Negotiation tactic. Cyril needs to call his bluff.

You expect Cyril to actually make a proper decision? Eish bra, Shaun is going to blame you for falling for the New Dawner stuff now.

 

[R13...]

EFF will play along, MK has also said they'll attend...

I am talking disruptions.

 

[JayM]

ZAR seems to be liking this EFF self-exclusion.

 

[3WA]

Negotiation tactic. Cyril needs to call his bluff.

"Listen, Juju, you're Minister of State Security whether you like it or not!"

 

[Sideshow Bob]

Best coalition for SA seems to be a probability.

DA to tell ANC: 'Yes' to president, Treasury’s plans but 'no' to cadre deployment | News24

The DA's framework document for negotiations with the ANC sets out that the party will be interested in a governance agreement if it is based on crucial tenets of the Constitution.

www.news24.com

 

[redspark]

No opportunity to waste state resources will be wasted.

I see. I get it (sort of).

Catering. They won't get a 2.5 hour 30 minute supper at Luthuli House...

So, who is paying for the "free" chow and the larney setup? The venue owner? Surely, not the state (well, perhaps indirectly via a third party )

 

[DapperDanMan]

is it fake news that Bheki Cele has been removed?

The whole(some) debacle is showering us with some glorious new content ...

 

[Agent67]

Best coalition for SA seems to be a probability.

DA to tell ANC: 'Yes' to president, Treasury’s plans but 'no' to cadre deployment | News24

The DA's framework document for negotiations with the ANC sets out that the party will be interested in a governance agreement if it is based on crucial tenets of the Constitution.

www.news24.com

It cites the following pillars as the DA's negotiating principles:

1. the promotion and protection of the Constitution;

2. the creation of an efficient and clean public service;

3. a sustainable fiscal framework for a stable and growing economy; and

4. the devolution of powers to provinces.

LET'S ****ING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

The DA also proposes an operating model to guide the functioning of a multi-party government, including a dispute resolution mechanism.

"We believe the full and urgent implementation of Operation Vulindlela is critical for success and would focus on seven priority areas: the unbundling of Eskom; the concessioning of ports; the establishment of a water regulator; the implementation of a skilled visa programme; title deed reform to expand land ownership; mineral rights reform; and the rapid expansion of spectrum availability."

The DA also specifically cites that the independence of the South African Reserve Bank should be defended, and that cadre deployment should be outlawed.

 

[stefan9]

I will be unpopular for this but I think DA should participate in the GNU (unless MK is there, EFF is also undesirable but negotiations can happen).

Demand DP position, police and transport ministries. If DA can go full blast in those ministries and properly deliver, it'll break the stigma once and for all about "IF DA COME TO POWER, APARTHEID COMES BACK". Country also gets to improve in those aspects.

IFP will most likely get speaker. ANC holds finance ministry with Godongwana.

Best we can probably hope for given the circumstances.

 

[Priapus]

LET'S ****ING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I think those demands will be rejected to be fair.

 

[FapCop]

Twitter bots on this matter have been something to behold. After watching them for a few days, I have one burning question:

What does Russia gain from South Africa burning to the ground?

 

[Agent67]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1798962059004232172

 

[The_Mowgs]

Twitter bots on this matter have been something to behold. After watching them for a few days, I have one burning question:

What does Russia gain from South Africa burning to the ground?

South Africa being their bitch.

 

[ToxicBunny]

I think those demands will be rejected to be fair.

Yeah, I think the cadre deployment one will be a step too far for the ANC currently, since they haven't actually accepted the reality that they face.

 

[Priapus]

Yeah, I think the cadre deployment one will be a step too far for the ANC currently, since they haven't actually accepted the reality that they face.

That and the devolution of powers to provinces. They'll never accept that.