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Priapus said:
Agreed; but I guess it isn't just up to the DA who takes the position right - everyone needs to vote on the speaker. If they vote the DA candidate, then... so be it.

As far as I know; today is just about the speaker position. So, should be fine.
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Isn't the MONC against Phalatse also today?
 
R13... said:
And didn't you have a sub still at 10bucks? It's not a month yet.
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Yes. But it's paywalled for everyone else, no?

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But the point is, if you have a party of “independent” candidates, how can you guarantee they will all support these ideas? You can’t, unless they are bound to the party in some way, in which case they aren’t independent.
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That is a fairly foundational problem, which brings us to another issue: who are these “independent” candidates? If they are all nominated by “communities”, presumably you will take them as they come: democrats, conservatives, pan-Africanists, radical socialists, libertarians, racial nationalists, Christian fundamentalists, greenies, fascists? That’s the spirit of independence after all. He is going to bring these people all together under one umbrella to work on a venture capital fund? Sure, whatever.

But no, that is not what Maimane means. He means independent candidates who think, feel and believe as he does: the great Maimane. He wants an army of Maimanes. Run by the chief Maimane. Independence has nothing to do with it.
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Thus, quite a contradiction, too, that he would now start one. He says he was forced into it: “I guaranteed South Africans that I would stand, but [parliament has] made it impossible for me to stand for a presidential election without amending the law. That’s why we need the platform.” Rubbish. Stand as an independent, on your own, and once elected convince the other independently elected MPs to vote for you as president. Why indulge the “antithesis” of democracy?
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ishop Vincent Jones was the mayoral candidate for the New Horizons Movement (NHM) in Emfuleni, Gauteng. NHM is “not a political party”, according to Jones. It has some convoluted, impossible-to-fully-understand organogram that suggests its members are 100% rooted in, accountable to and drawn from the community. “There is nothing remotely political about NHM,” its website states. We shall see.

Jones was elected as a councillor via the list system, on a fraction, with 1.27% of the vote. Maimane campaigned for him and OSA helped “capacitate” NHM.
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After he failed to be directly elected, Jones went into a coalition with the ANC, in return for a position on the mayoral committee as MMC for public works.
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In many respects, Mmusi Maimane is SA’s ultimate politician, at least in terms of all the negative political attributes he constantly alludes to. The way he clings to the idea that he is the truth and the way. The desperate attempt to manufacture political relevance. The endless fluffy rhetoric that falls apart on close examination. The insatiable ambition to be promoted to the highest office. The lack of accountability on his own part for his failings, all dismissed as conspiracy. The need for accolades and acolytes, who genuflect his own vision back to him. The hypocrisy and contradiction. It’s all there.
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What Maimane needs to admit is that he is a politician, not a Messiah. Thus, a victim of its drawbacks and susceptible to its influence, just as much as he is a good person trying to do the right thing. We will all understand. We know the game. It’s OK. But please, this idea that he has stumbled across some non-political formula for success, that sets him apart from the rabble, needs to stop. No-one likes the pretence of infallibility.
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R13... said:
We can guess, given that Gareth mislikes Maimane. And didn't you have a sub still at 10bucks? It's not a month yet.
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He does, because many politicians say a lot of things, but he had to remind Maimane that he is not a Messiah, something Maimane never claimed to be.
 
TheChamp said:
He does, because many politicians say a lot of things, but he had to remind Maimane that he is not a Messiah, something Maimane never claimed to be.
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Yeah, he never said that, but he acts that way.

He strikes me as having the vibe of your stereotypical holier-than-thou dominee...
 
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Btw the guy who posted this is the Provincial Secretary of the SACP in the Western Cape.
 
PrimeSteak said:
Yeah, he never said that, but he acts that way.

He strikes me as having the vibe of your stereotypical holier-than-thou dominee...
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You are only saying that because you know he is a Pastor, otherwise he could have sounded like a regular Steenhuisen or any other politician.
 
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Alfred Duma: Ward 9. ANC ward, seems weak enough for the IFP to again take a ward off of ANC.
 
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Cape Town Mayor Geordin Hill-Lewis has announced that Mayoral Committee member for water and sanitation Zahid Badroodien has stepped down and will face a Council disciplinary committee.

This comes amid allegations of tampering with an electricity meter at a property owned by him.

"This is a Council matter being dealt with by the Speaker's Office. I am therefore not at liberty to comment on the charges against Councillor Badroodien, nor the disciplinary process to be followed," Hill-Lewis said.

Badroodien in a statement said he believes that leaders must be held to the highest possible standards of honesty and conduct, therefore he has requested the mayor to allow him to step down.

"I can only ask for a speedy resolution of this process. I will continue to serve ward 48 as their elected councillor," he added.

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