The SA Smart ID Card Thread

joelus said:
At some point the old id book will no longer be accepted by anyone (banks, etc) as valid ID.
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And?

On average I have to present my ID book maybe once a year... and thats in a bad year... more often than not my ID book lives in my safe and never sees the light of day.
 
ToxicBunny said:
And?

On average I have to present my ID book maybe once a year... and thats in a bad year... more often than not my ID book lives in my safe and never sees the light of day.
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In that case I guess you can just wait until such time as you actually need it, and then go order it. No-one is going to force you to get one before you need it. The ID police are not going to come knocking at your door to see if you've upgraded!

Hopefully you don't find one day you need it (buying a new sim card or whatever) and then realise you have to wait a month to get it!
 
Fingolfin said:
Yeah, totally. Then how about we drop all the fancy malware-infested cellphone NFC payment technology and simply use these smart IDs as our new e-wallets! They are obviously cutting edge when it comes to security features, since they are being entrusted with our 'identity', right? So goodbye stinky drug-stained anonymous cash! And anyway, cellphones will be totally obsolete in a coupla years, with all that clunky hardware getting smaller, and moving into our bodies where it belongs. We'll be able to watch a fuzzy, animated QR code on TV and get the latest OS updates direct to our brain-pods. No hassle.

How about we let this new ID card also double as our credit cards, debit cards, and backstage passes!

And then we can tie it to our Trackr fleet-tracking systems and make sure granny is safe, because our iPad tells us that that she remembered to slide the card through the MasterCard slot on lamppost #343534535 in the Company Gardens, as she strolled by, and no registered sex offenders, devious artists or metalheads are anywhere within a 250 ft radius. These active 'pings' from conscientious citizens will help augment the inefficient metrics-based passive sensors currently employed to monitor their safety and moral security. We can change all the locks in the country over to card-slot-based systems and finally all the struggling local door manufacturers can move into the new subscription e-service business model, micro-charging for entry and exit, like all the other innovative movers-and-shakers from silicon valley.

This new SmartID card will be able to augment transactions done using FaceBook FaceCam at all decent retail establishments: in case the facebook camera does not properly recognize you (that gooorgeous new hairdo!), you can simply swipe the new card to confirm your identity, which, for a limited time only, can also earn you extra Face-time on youtube.

The card can be tied to the game avatars we will use when playing 'InternetBanking!', earning achievement badges when we perform a skillful transactions, or overcome a particularly costly door. Just think of the employment opportunities created - all the new hardware devices and industrial design that will be needed! Cape Town is design capital of the world at the moment isn't it? Think of all the sexy new LED-lit systems and devices that will need to be card-slot-enabled for the new Unified Identity System.

Additionally, I see remarkable opportunities in tying this to the the new Google Ring v1 (http://news.discovery.com/tech/gear-and-gadgets/google-kill-passwords-magic-ring-130314.htm), which, when bound via ultra-secure RFID signals to the new Smart card ID, will enable verifiable InterNet Single Sign-on in One fell swoop. Nobody will be able to run the gauntlett of smearing our Politicians or the Temple-Guardians of the Reserve Bank online again without standing up to the responsibility of their Identity! Finally, the Grand Web of Things will be truly woven, and Right of Admission can be globally Reserved.

http://www.geek.com/chips/google-ring-to-provide-one-hardware-password-to-rule-them-all-1542568/

Another thing: in the spirit of patriotism, and for the sake of global innovation, it honors us that these kinds of complicated systems, with great potential to radically change society, be tested out first on willing developing third-world countries, like India and ourselves. Think of it as taking one for Team Earth!

This techno-utopia is brought to you via our new centralized, totally secure identity database.
1 person, 1 card. 1 pass...starting with the children.

It's the Right Thing To Do.
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Great ! Welcome 1984!
 
ToxicBunny said:
R140 and they're going to try and force me to do this, ummm nope... sorry.

My ID book is still perfectly workable and doesn't need to be replaced anytime soon.
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Shame. You will sit with the hassle. The rest of us will have cards.
 
genetic said:
Shame. You will sit with the hassle. The rest of us will have cards.
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What hassle?

I very rarely have to present my ID book for anything... once a year is a lot as I've previously said.

For me this is similar to this e-toll thing, albeit on a smaller financial scale. Forcing your citizens to get one at a price is not on in my books. I have no issue with them phasing the old ID book out, and making the card the replacement, and as and when you need a replacement you go and get one... or if you decide you want a card you go and get.
 
Does anyone know if it's going to use a IEC standard or will it be proprietary? I'm hoping this ID service will have some sort of validation API
 
Well thats at least 2 national elections and 1 local that the old one will still be valid.

Going on the fact that the rollout will take 8 years apparently, and I expect it to take longer.
 
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Fudzy said:
Yeah sorry, must have misheard the radio news.

http://www.dha.gov.za/index.php/id-smart-card

2 week delivery time! That's impressive, I'll believe it when I see it though
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I can believe this. I renewed my passport last month, and got a sms saying it was ready for collection 7 days later! Impressive to say the least.

I got a new ID book 2 years back, and it was ready for collection 3 weeks later.

Home Affairs has definitely jacked themselves up over the last few years.
 
genetic said:
I can believe this. I renewed my passport last month, and got a sms saying it was ready for collection 7 days later! Impressive to say the least.

I got a new ID book 2 years back, and it was ready for collection 3 weeks later.

Home Affairs has definitely jacked themselves up over the last few years.
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They certainly have, I last applied in 2003 when I lost mine. They then subsequently lost it and I had to go through the procedure again. I got a phonecall to collect the first one then about 3 months later and about a year later the second one arrived in the mail.
 
That I will give them in spades... they've turned around in a big way.

Went to get a new passport, 7 days later it was ready for collection.
 
So it's 8 years to roll out to "all" south africans, but if I went into home affairs today and applied for a new ID would I get a smart ID?
 
Garyvdh said:
Pandor said the first smart cards would be issued to eminent people including President Jacob Zuma, Winnie Madikizela-Mandela, Graca Machel, Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu, and Mbeki
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So, the rest of us, i.e. the honest, and the law abiding, and the non-corrupt, and atheists, will get their cards last. :whistle:
 
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