The SA Vehicle Industry Thread

Yeah the safety is in check though. You are certainly better in the PVC than the Kwid or Go.

Well the Go and the Kwid are 40 year old cars with a new body :-). At least the PVC is only nearing 20 years.
 
This is the right thread to have a meaningful discussion as to why only 4 units of the FF were sold last month.

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We cannot discuss the FF in depth without having an honourable mention of its close rival. Gone but not forgotten....

https://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/829922-Mazda-6-gone-but-not-forgotten-(in-SA)
 
This is the right thread to have a meaningful discussion as to why only 4 units of the FF were sold last month.

f9c70fe23bb0e6b94acd1e422b5dc0d0.jpg


We cannot discuss the FF in depth without having an honourable mention of its close rival. Gone but not forgotten....

https://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/829922-Mazda-6-gone-but-not-forgotten-(in-SA)

I looked at a Mazda 6, before buying the Passat. And although the car was nice, the boot (if I remember correctly), was quite small, or shallow. And the car I looked at lacked some features. Plus It had a big petrol engine, no diesel, so I was expecting heavy fuel consumption. Decided against it.
 
I looked at a Mazda 6, before buying the Passat. And although the car was nice, the boot (if I remember correctly), was quite small, or shallow. And the car I looked at lacked some features. Plus It had a big petrol engine, no diesel, so I was expecting heavy fuel consumption. Decided against it.

Though the initial outlay for the Diesel will take about 5 years to recover what you could've saved on the petrol variant. Unless they were similarly priced :-)
 
Though the initial outlay for the Diesel will take about 5 years to recover what you could've saved on the petrol variant. Unless they were similarly priced :-)

One year old cars, price was almost the same.
 
Can one ask for a discount on any new vehicle or only on the more expensive models and how hard can you push them? I was surprised at the difference between the list price of a NP300 on the website and a quote I got from a dealer.
 
This is the right thread to have a meaningful discussion as to why only 4 units of the FF were sold last month.

f9c70fe23bb0e6b94acd1e422b5dc0d0.jpg


We cannot discuss the FF in depth without having an honourable mention of its close rival. Gone but not forgotten....

https://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/829922-Mazda-6-gone-but-not-forgotten-(in-SA)

More GT86's were sold, the month before the facelift.

I think the other problem with those Camry/Passat/Fusion/Mazda6 class cars is that SUVs and Crossovers have also taken over a large part of their role as a family car. So what's left for them to do?
 
New Car Sales Summary for March 2017

Car sales returned to positive year-on-year growth for March 2017. The good news isn't likely to last however as the recent credit downgrade will affect car prices and interest rates in the near future.

New car sales in South Africa for March 2017 reflected somewhat positive results with year-on-year improvements across the board, but the short to long term outlook is negative due to current political and economic developments. Take a look at the summary below for the details.

Despite tough economic conditions, the local automobile industry has shown a positive gain for March 2017. Although this is good news, the National Association of Automobile Manufacturers of South Africa (NAAMSA) has warned that the recent political developments will have far-reaching consequences for the South African economy in the short to medium term.

In terms of vehicle sales, the Toyota Hilux once again came out on top as the best-selling vehicle in South Africa, with its rival, the Ford Ranger coming in at a close second. The popular Volkswagen Polo Vivo and Polo recorded impressive numbers yet again and remain the most popular passenger cars currently on sale in South Africa.

New car sales summary for March 2017

Aggregate new car sales of 48 534 up by 2.1% (+1 020 units) compared with March 2016

New passenger vehicle sales of 31 034 up by 2.1% (+644 units) compared to March 2016

Light commercial vehicle sales of 14 882 up by 1.1% (+169 units) compared to March 2016

Export sales of 27 720 up by 7.8% (+2 159 units) compared to March 2016

http://www.cars.co.za/motoring_news/new-car-sales-summary-for-march-2017/43205/
 
More GT86's were sold, the month before the facelift.

I think the other problem with those Camry/Passat/Fusion/Mazda6 class cars is that SUVs and Crossovers have also taken over a large part of their role as a family car. So what's left for them to do?

Yup seems the SUV has become a family car for some reason, my sedan does the job fine :-).
 
My coupe is a reasonable family car. Boot is massive and we only have a 4 year old in the back :cool:

Yup, my car's boot is massive, the only issue is the lid :-(. There I will say an SUV has an advantage.
 
Yup seems the SUV has become a family car for some reason, my sedan does the job fine :-).

Same here, with the added benefit of good fuel consumption and cheap(ish) tyres. Neither of which is a given with SUV's. I actually struggle to understand how so many people can afford to keep SUV's on the road. They just seem more expensive to maintain(tyres, fuel, services etc.).
 
More GT86's were sold, the month before the facelift.

I think the other problem with those Camry/Passat/Fusion/Mazda6 class cars is that SUVs and Crossovers have also taken over a large part of their role as a family car. So what's left for them to do?

Agree and for the price ..

FF - Retail Price
R419,900 - R553,900
 
Agree and for the price ..

FF - Retail Price
R419,900 - R553,900

No matter how nice you make it, it's still a "Ford". Hell some people still see Lexus as an expensive Toyota.
 
SA warned that new vehicle prices could skyrocket

Despite the fact that South Africa’s new vehicle industry grew some 2,1% in March year-on-year, WesBank has warned that the “current political climate” may soon result in hiked prices and a slump in sales.

Rudolf Mahoney, head of brand and communications at WesBank, said that March’s growth was driven by sales through the dealer channel, where consumers are active.

SA’s 10 best-selling passenger cars of March 2017
South Africa’s 10 best-selling bakkies of March 2017
“March’s sales performance is indicative of the positive sentiment in the economy during the past month. There were a few contributing factors, including a strong rand and falling fuel prices,” explained Mahoney.

“Consumers had many reasons to feel confident enough to spend money, and this is immediately evident in the new vehicle sales.”

This was reflected in the demand for vehicle finance, with WesBank’s data showing year-on-year growth of 8% for new vehicle finance and average new vehicle prices reaching an all-time high (also 8% up year-on-year).

This strong demand for new vehicles was not at the expense of used vehicle sales either, where application volumes were 13,4% higher than the same time last year, according to WesBank. Consumers shopping in the used market during March were also spending 8,6% more on average than last year.

“However, this positivity is going to be short-lived. The current political climate has introduced massive uncertainty in all South African markets. Both business and consumer confidence have been shaken, and this will filter through to the ratings agencies as well,” said Mahoney.

In fact, on Tuesday evening, Standard and Poor’s placed South Africa’s credit outlook at junk status.

“The rand’s sharp decline has already wiped out the benefit of lower fuel prices, and if it continues to deteriorate, new vehicle prices will follow suit,” warned Mahoney.

http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/sa-warned-that-new-vehicle-prices-could-skyrocket/
 
Silly car salesmen, rand goes down car prices go up, rand goes up and the same.
 
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