The Shroom Thread

Anyone tried mescaline and know where to find it locally or extract it from the cacti? Possibly considering trying it later in the year but still want to read up on it and see whether it’ll be worth it for me or not.

Found a local “retreat” that offers an experience with it combined with dmt and some other random drug I’ve only recently heard off over a couple of days but I’m not looking to be tripping for a whole week lol
 
Anyone tried mescaline and know where to find it locally or extract it from the cacti? Possibly considering trying it later in the year but still want to read up on it and see whether it’ll be worth it for me or not.

Found a local “retreat” that offers an experience with it combined with dmt and some other random drug I’ve only recently heard off over a couple of days but I’m not looking to be tripping for a whole week lol

Had some mescaline from King Kushie yesterday. The effects are somewhere between acid and shrooms but it wasn't as great. I'd take shrooms over it any day.
 
Is there a difference between shroom types or just the strength?
 
Is there a difference between shroom types or just the strength?


If you mean psilocybin-containing mushrooms, then they are all similar in the sense that they all contain (as mentioned already) variable doses of the stuff that gets you high (psilocin), and the stuff that turns into the stuff that gets you high (psilocybin), and Baeocystin, an analog of psilocybin.

From some random site:

SPECIES% PSILOCYBIN% PSILOCIN% BAEOCYSTINREFERENCE
P. azurenscens1.78.38.35Stamets and Gartz 1995
P. bohemica1.34.11.02Gartz and Muller 1989; Gartz (1994)
P. semilanceata.98.02.36Gartz 1994
P. baeocystis.85.59.10Repke et al. 1977; Beug and Bigwood 1982(b)
P. cyanescens.85.36.03Stijve and Kuyper 1985; Repke et al. 1977
P. tampanensis.68.32n/aGartz 1994
P. cubensis.63.60.025Gartz 1994; Stijve and de Meijer 1993
P. weilii.61.27.05
P. hoogshagenii.60.10n/aHeim and Hofmann 1958
P. stuntzii.36.12.02Beug and Bigwood 1982(b); Repke et al. 1977
P. cyanofibrillosa.21.04n/aStamets et al. 1980
P. liniformans.16n/d.005Stijve and Kuyper

They are, also, of course, other mushrooms, that contain other things that can get you high, such as the one most people picture in their heads - The Alice in Wonderland mushroom.

I think also, an important consideration, RE differences is how easy it is to grow a certain variant, and there will of course be substantial variances per genetic batch, etc. Enough so, generally, that we have an approximate sense of what 1 gram, vs 2, vs 5 etc, will generally do to a person, although I reckon safest bet, if you are ever going to use such a thing, is test with a gram, get a sense of the strength of said batch, and go from there.
 
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Strange the amount of psilocon does not relate to the amount of psilocybin?
Cubensis must be strong though.

I'm curious now, what does one get from a stronger dosage than the 2g I took, or will it just last longer?
 
Strange the amount of psilocon does not relate to the amount of psilocybin?
Cubensis must be strong though.

I'm curious now, what does one get from a stronger dosage than the 2g I took, or will it just last longer?

In my experience the length of the trip is not dose-dependent. However, there is a difference in this regard in how you take them, and whether you have food in your stomach - If you grind them to powder, mix them into orange juice [the theory here being that the acid starts converting the psilocybin into psilocin even before it gets inside of you], and chug this down on an empty stomach, the come up is sometimes astonishingly fast, and the experience generally more intense and shorter.

Conversely, eating them whole / mixed with food, with an already full stomach, the come up is going to be longer, and the experience itself tends to be of a slightly extended duration. For many people though, this causes somewhat unpleasant nausea, and my preference would be to use them after an actual fast of at least an entire day - Not just to empty yourself, but also to make sure you don't have any coffee, etc inside of you that could interact (albeit mildly) with the shrooms.

If you want to extend the experience, best bet is to re-dose about two hours in, and this is also probably a good thing to do (as opposed to having a too-large dose in the beginning), especially if a person is not experienced. These things can kick your ass, and I've read so many stories of people who have a fun old time, and then because we are stupid animals make decisions like "well, if 2 grams was fun, then 6 grams is surely 3 times as fun, right?". Wrong, probably...

As for what people get from a stronger dose, I think it's generally accepted there are five 'levels' (this idea comes from Timothy Leary, although these are not his descriptors):

Link.

Trip level 1: A little numb and very social
You may feel extreme relaxation, a “stoning” effect. Colours and sounds may be different; wider, brighter and clearer. You are socially more active, and maybe a bit philosophical.

Trip level 2: Creativity and mild visuals
Everything looks bright and objects may look like they’re slightly moving and breathing. When you focus on objects, it may look like they are made of smooth plastic. When you close your eyes, you may see some patterns. Your short term memory changes, which causes you to change thoughts rapidly. Your natural way of thought is bypassed, which makes you creative and come up with new ideas.

Trip level 3: Stronger visuals, mild hallucinations
Strong visuals, kaleidoscopic effects, and waving, warping objects and faces around you. Mild hallucinations like flowing water and trees. Closed eye hallucinations are more obvious and attractive (probably 3D). Some disorientation as what you can feel, see or hear. Lost control over what time it is and how long you’ve been tripping.

Trip level 4: Intense hallucinations
Intense hallucinations, things around you are morphing. You may feel that objects or hallucinations are talking to you. You may feel multiple emotions at once, contradictions. Time and reality seem meaningless. Mild synesthesia. Possibly out-of-body experiences.

Trip level 5: Total loss of reality
Visually, everything is different. Reality and ego are dissolved. You are not sure what you see and what you hear, because everything seems to function as one. Time and reality are gone. You feel like merging with the universe and/or objects around you. There is no way of perceiving things, there is no right or wrong, there is no reality. You feel like you are blended with space and eternity. Some call this Satori, awakening or enlightenment

I'd say I've been at about a 3.5. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with anything above that, at this point in my life.

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Personally, I thoroughly enjoy the point at which the closed-eye visuals become 3 dimensional and colourful. That **** is like watching art being created real time in your head. It is beautiful.
 
Then I've only been to 2.5 ish, and would like to do a 3.
Thing is, I do not even remember when last I was actually drunk (I do not want to be drunk in front of my kids, babelas is just not worth it, and I find drunk people boring).
So it's tough finding a long enough quiet time.
 
Had some mescaline from King Kushie yesterday. The effects are somewhere between acid and shrooms but it wasn't as great. I'd take shrooms over it any day.

Hi there. Didn't know KK sell mescaline! If you don't mind my asking:

- What's the price?
- What species cactus was used in the making of?
- Do they sell the raw, dried chips or an extract like Mescaline HCl?
- What was your method of consumption?

I have a bag of 20g dried Peruvian Torch (Echinopsis peruviana) I bought months ago. Only reason I haven't tried it yet (would be my first time) is that I apparently completely misjudged the amount required. According to Erowid:

The mescaline content of the various mescaline containing cacti varies greatly between individual samples as well as between species. Following is an estimate of the mescaline contents of these three species. Although there has long been a myth that Trichocerus peruvianus is "10 times" stronger than T. pachanoi, there is not much data to support this view. Many reports indicate that peruvianus may be somewhat stronger than pachanoi, but this is hotly disputed among cactus experts. See A Look at the Mescaline Content of T. peruvianus and T. pachanoi.
  • Lophophora williamsii - 300 mg / 27 g dried material
  • Trichocerus peruvianus - 300 mg / 15 to 100 grams dried material (.3% - 2.0%)
  • Trichocerus pachanoi - 300 mg / 15 to 100 grams grams dried material (.3% - 2.0%)

Once I have enough I'd probably make a tea... or I could fill a helluva lot of empty gelcaps and consume as is, I guess. Not sure if my tummy would like that.

By the way, SeedsForAfrica were selling Trichocereus Pachanoi and Trichocereus Peruvianus seeds last year. Temporarily out of stock at the moment, though.

"It's called Mescaline. It's the only way to fly!" -The Matrix
 
Had some mescaline from King Kushie yesterday. The effects are somewhere between acid and shrooms but it wasn't as great. I'd take shrooms over it any day.

Holy cow! Didn’t realise they sold it. Had to double take their menu looking for it as I couldn’t believe I’d missed it.

If you don’t mind me asking, what dosage did you have and do you enjoy acid by itself?
 
Can you identify these, growing in grass on a plot in western cape eden district,
might be common just interested in finding out the species



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Can you identify these, growing in grass on a plot in western cape eden district,
might be common just interested in finding out the species


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Not sure, but try shroomery forum in the mushroom ID section. Doesn't look like anything edible with those gills.
 
Can you identify these, growing in grass on a plot in western cape eden district,
might be common just interested in finding out the species

Looks similar to these I found at a farm somewhere between Kareedouw and Joubertina in the Eden district. I'd also be interested to identify.
 

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Hey.

Paid R200 per vial of 300 mics. Afaik it was peyote. It's in this weird vial that you take as a shot. Burns like hell and tastes like ****. My throat was making phlegm for about 20 minutes after I took it, very unpleasant.

Hi there. Didn't know KK sell mescaline! If you don't mind my asking:

- What's the price?
- What species cactus was used in the making of?
- Do they sell the raw, dried chips or an extract like Mescaline HCl?
- What was your method of consumption?

I have a bag of 20g dried Peruvian Torch (Echinopsis peruviana) I bought months ago. Only reason I haven't tried it yet (would be my first time) is that I apparently completely misjudged the amount required. According to Erowid:



Once I have enough I'd probably make a tea... or I could fill a helluva lot of empty gelcaps and consume as is, I guess. Not sure if my tummy would like that.

By the way, SeedsForAfrica were selling Trichocereus Pachanoi and Trichocereus Peruvianus seeds last year. Temporarily out of stock at the moment, though.

"It's called Mescaline. It's the only way to fly!" -The Matrix
 
Hey. 300 mics. Acid is crazy, but it takes a toll on my body, especially my jaw, mouth and head. I usually have to take paracetamol near the end just to control the headaches.

I'd do acid once a year and mushrooms when the time is right. I probably won't do mescaline again.

Holy cow! Didn’t realise they sold it. Had to double take their menu looking for it as I couldn’t believe I’d missed it.

If you don’t mind me asking, what dosage did you have and do you enjoy acid by itself?
 
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